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Old 06-11-2005, 11:03 AM   #1
Dar'tanian
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Number 1) Is there any way to enter the Planater WITH OUT valgar in my party? i have a socereress, a theif, a cleric, and i just picked up mazzy for kicks, but i dont want valgar.


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Number 2) Where can i find the Silver Dragons blood to finish the tanners quest, I thought about it and i figured maybe from the one dragon in the underdark (cant remeber her name) but i have no intention of killing her, is there anywhere else?
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Old 06-11-2005, 11:16 AM   #2
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1. You can kill valygar and just use his body to enter the sphere. I guess this is the evil route... so if you're a good guy you can keep him with you to enter the sphere and then kick him out the door before you go travelling the planes. Which is still pretty mean, but atleast you didn't kill him, right?

2. The blood is from the silver dragon in the underdark, yes. No way to get the blood without killing her though. Only evil characters can wear the armor anyway, so it doesn't matter unless you're a big meanie.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:18 PM   #3
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In response to 2) and as elaboration.. Yes you'll have to kill the silver dragon in the Underdark. Be aware that doing so may block you from a major part of the Underdark plot. You can only wear it with evil characters (as mentioned) or characters with UAI.
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Old 06-11-2005, 07:44 PM   #4
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Well, you don't have to miss out on the underdark plot.
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If you give the demon the real dragon eggs, the dragon will attack you, giving you all the xp. and stuff from Ust natha, and still giving you the dragon blood. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:17 PM   #5
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Yep. That is true. However only evil characters get that option IIRC.
It was meant as a warning so he didn't charge the dragon on first sight thinking Ust Natha would still be available.
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Old 06-11-2005, 08:52 PM   #6
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Really? I thought any character had that option. It's just if you were good, you would choose to switch the real with phaere's, and leave the demon to its own devices.
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Old 06-11-2005, 09:01 PM   #7
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It might be reputation related instead. In any event I have only gotten the option with my evil aligned kensai->thief, not with my other more benevolent characters. (Interesting char btw. Was romancing Aerie. Wanted to twist the girls head, but she wound up twisting mine instead. Didn't even get the bragging rights of bagging Phaere).
Any character can choose to let the real eggs be sacrificed by Phaere by not doing a full swap.

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Old 06-11-2005, 09:29 PM   #8
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Exactly, so you could still have the dragon attack you, get the blood, regardless of your alignment.
I always thought that the dialouge choices were the same, regardless of alignment/reputation.
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:18 AM   #9
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I thought that charisma is what influenced your dialogue, like characters with better charisma had more choices and things to say...newho i want to kno if this armour is worth it so spoil me on how good it is cause i have an evil theif and he is currently wearing the shade armour plus 5
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Old 06-12-2005, 02:43 AM   #10
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If you are good, you can do all quest in underdark, give the dragon the eggs in the end. She will teleport you to the exit. Go back to dragon cave and kill her when she is not in her dragon form (easier fight). The armor is a reallly nice one for an evil char. Good aligned thieves or bards can use it too in ToB.
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