Wizards any good....? I don't think so....

[KingAxis]

Ok, I'm not sure cause I've never used a mage as my main character. However - Can you effect EVERY battle you and your allies come into? I don't see how. I don't see how you can keep enough spells to be affective in every battle. As a Fighter I'm for sure, 100%, very important to me and my Party. I don't see how being a mage you can be so important. Have any of you used a Mage as your main character throughout the game? Was it as powerful as a Fighter would be? Please tell me cause I'm thinking about playing through both main games and expansion packs. Any info will help.....

[andrewas]

WELCOME TO THE BOARD!

anyway, you are correct. mages in BG1 tend to be relatively weak compared to those in BG2, they just cant memorize enough spells. there is a ring of wizardry lying outside the FAI though, that usualy helps matters. it doubles your 1st level spells - and magic missile is one of the most useful right up until the very end of ToB, so its definatly gonna be usful throughout BG1. if you rest more often so you always have spells available, then you can at least be useful more often.

i woudnt take more than one mage in a BG1 party - compared to 3 for a BG2 party - although i am tempted to create a six-mage party just for kicks. obviously not all pure mages.

and you should stick a high end sling on a mage - +2 if you can get it. since they tend to stand back they are in the best position to pelt people with stones. a staff for hand-to-hand, although thats a last resort.

[Ronn_Bman]

Many here have soloed as mages.

I think mages aren't used in every battle because they are like the heavy artillery. They personally possess lots of firepower, but not much defense. Not really necessary to cast spells against a couple of goblins, just throw darts or sling stones, but against the bigger, badder enemies mages are invaluable!

[KingAxis]

Good points, good points. Have any of you played the whole game [BG(TOSC)] & [BGII(TOB)] with just a mage? I've done it with a fighter and it was great the whole way through. And yes mages they are the "heavy artillery" in the big battles. I wouldn't be without 1 and 1/2 magi in my party. That's been my average.....God! I'm a dork. Anyway, I guess if I were to do so the game would have more of a 'team feel' cause the first time around my fighter killed EVERYTHING. I got a really good starting roll I did NOT use an editor by the way.

[Lemernis]

Playing a mage as your main character is lots of fun. Kind of tough in the beginning, but it's not as though you have to wander the countryside all by yourself avoiding gibberlings. You take on Imoen right away, of course. Then Xzar and Montaron to help you defeat Tarnesh, the assassin at FAI. Then at FAI you can replace them with Khalid and Jaheira.

It is true that a mage plays a support role until they get enough spell slots and high level spells. Although don't forget the use of wands. With the wands they're damn near as powerful as a fighter.

[SixOfSpades]

I tried soloing as a Mage once, but just got sick of him dying all the damn time. There's only so much you can do against enemies with Magic Resistance, and slings just don't cut it. By the way, there IS no +2 sling in BG1 / ToSC, at least not as far as I know. Do you mean the +3 one?

I didn't find Mages to be all that important to my game in BG1, except for some spells like Haste. I'd rather have a Multi- or Dual-classed Mage than a True one. In BG2, though, I think it'd be best to have a Multiclassed Mage, and either a Sorceror or Fighter->Mage.

The next time I Solo, I'll be a Mage/Thief. At least that way, I'll have a HALFWAY decent THAC0. My solo Mage actually took damage against a RAT.

[Scholarcs]

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
The next time I Solo, I'll be a Mage/Thief. At least that way, I'll have a HALFWAY decent THAC0. My solo Mage actually took damage against a RAT.

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Your mage must REALLY have sucked then.

I have soloed BG1 with a mage. But I don't think it is possible to do it first time. The key is to pick and choose some of your battles, and use wands wisely. And the ring of wizardry outside the FAI really helps.

[SixOfSpades]

Actually, the Mage I started to Solo with was the best Mage I've ever seen....Half-Elven Conjurer with a total of 96 stat points. (That's an average score of 16.) He was actually pretty darn good--for a solo Mage--but having such a terrible AC and THAC0 was pretty much the kiss of death for him. He did fine looting the Ankheg cave north of the Friendly Arm, but those Sirenes and Flesh Golems were too much for him. (I kept trying to kill them, for that yummy EXP so I could get more spells, but my pitiful THAC0 made the Darts of Wounding useless.)

I have NO idea why that rat managed to hurt him. I've never seen it before or since.

[Lemernis]

I've never soloed with a mage (or any other class for that matter), but I'm finding with my four specialist mage, cleric, mage-thief party that you have to rest all the damn time! The upside is that there is some bonafide excitement in the battles, even the routine ones. I mean I barely make it by the skin of my teeth in some of these fights. So far I have picked my fights very carefully right along the Trade Way. I just reached level 2, and rep and cash continue to grow at a good rate. But as I said, because of the low number of spell slots and the need to sleep all the time it is rather slow going. I really do like playing with these mages though. I'm playing Dark Side and really look forward to when they're casting level 6-9 spells (well, as high as I can get them anyway).

[KingAxis]

"And the ring of wizardry outside the FAI really helps." - I saw this quote from a previous poster. Where is the ring of wizardry outside the FAI ?