Idea for a Dwarwen Cleric/Kensai

[Mystique]

Hello. I wanted to roleplay this character. A Dualclassed Dwarwen Cleric/Kensai. And the "tale" of the character is:

You were a priest of Lathander, the morning lord. But one action changed this tale. You were on a ship with your comrades. And were going to Chalisman to predice about the Lathander learn. But, just after you took off, you felt a knife to your throat. Your friend Neb, the dwarwen seer, and a few others, had betrayed you and the other crew. They took over the ship, and dumped your comrades in the sea. But not you. They didnt dump you because the evil seer had felt that your blood radiated evil, and they didnt want to anger the evil gods by dumping you in the sea, so they put you on a islan. An unknown island. You made your best to survive but swarfs are not well suited for that kind of heat. But one day, when you went into the palm forest to find food, a strange visage appeared. "Hello Gorgol" the spook said. Then it teleported you into a small meadow in the middle of the woods. And now, a man approached you.
"I shall teach you the ways of finesse fighting. For without it, you will not survive in these treachorus woods." And the years went on. 5 years later, you had become next to perfect in battling with two swords in your hands. "Now the time has cometh, you shall go back to where you belong, and take revenge on your "comrades". And you walked down to the beach, and there lied a boat. And you started the long journey home...


Is this "roleplaying friendly"?
And what do you think about the tale?

[JrKASperov]

It totally does not fit in with the story of SoA. And it sounds really...unbelievable... sorry

[Mystique]

When making this stiry i didnt give a damn about BG1. And "home" happens to be Baldurs gate. And when Imoen comes rescueing you in the start of BG2 she says: "I dont know what happened, all i know is that we were near Baldurs gate and got jumped." And i didnt give a damn about the people who knew me from before (Minsc, Jaheira, Vic, Imoen etc etc.)

[teardropmina]

well, personally I would ony roleplay SoA without involving the use of SK, that is, abiding the basic rule of SoA. I don't know what do you mean by *roleplaying friendly*; to me, you have a fancy story for the PC (or maybe the imagined powergaming ability cometh from this story) you want to play. This character isn't a SoA valid one, and so the obly way you can play it is to tweak it through SK or maybe certain powergaming mod (IIRC, there's mod that can make a PC Lich) which I don't know of. Also, I'm wondering how/when does this story fit into the BG storyline. Before the beginning of BG, or inbetween BG/SoA? It seems like you'll already be a Cleric -> Kenasi in the beginning of SoA since the two swords training is done in the woods. I reckon it'll involve even more tweaking in the weapon proficiency department. Too much tweakings to make up a character to suit the roleplaying story.

[teardropmina]

Originally posted by Mystique: When making this stiry i didnt give a damn about BG1. And "home" happens to be Baldurs gate. And when Imoen comes rescueing you in the start of BG2 she says: "I dont know what happened, all i know is that we were near Baldurs gate and got jumped." And i didnt give a damn about the people who knew me from before (Minsc, Jaheira, Vic, Imoen etc etc.)

mm...then I guess you just answered my question in my previous post then. This story has nothing to do with BG saga. Actually you have to give no damn to everything BG (including SoA its own storyline) saga to make the roleplaying work. First off, the opening movie and end movie (and everything cometh afterwards from ToB if you plan to go there) are also invalid. You're not raised by Gorion in CandleKeep -- you're not Gorion's Ward. All the dreams you would have in the game makes no sense at all. But hey, it's your game, you can play it anyway you wish to [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-02-2004, 07:57 AM: Message edited by: teardropmina ]

[drew_jarvie]

Cleric/Kensai is NOT a leagal combo.

Neither is Cleric --> Kensai Dual class

But Kensai --> Cleric IS legal.


Just to makie that clear to you, Mystique. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Well...
It's a good story.
But.
You're asking a lot of us. You want us to accept that a dwarf left his clan (They're alarmingly clan-oriented, but exceptions do exist); spends lots of time outdoors (They feel more comfortable in caverns, but exceptions do exist); follows Lathander (They're fiercely loyal to their own gods, but exceptions do exist); that he was on a ship (They abhor water travel, but exceptions do exist); and that he agreed to learn finesse (They hack at things with axes, but exceptions do exist).
Now, the circumstances of the finesse are exceptional (That sort of thing doesn't normally happen, but exceptions might exist), so the teleportation to the mysterious meadow alone might be stretching it...
But these six traits are warning flags, and all six exceptions existing in one character? Highly doubtful, though possible.
Perhaps this might work better if this were a gnome, or a halfing, or even a half-elf?

[ 04-02-2004, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Illumina Drathiran'ar ]

[teardropmina]

Originally posted by drew_jarvie: Cleric/Kensai is NOT a leagal combo. Neither is Cleric --> Kensai Dual class But Kensai --> Cleric IS legal. Just to makie that clear to you, Mystique. [img]smile.gif[/img]

well, even before we get to the combo issue, dwarf is not supposed to be able to dualclass in the first place.

[Mystique]

I know about the class thignies, and how the dwarf has alot of exeptions. But this dwarf DOES contain the blood of a god does he not? He spent time outdoors because he felt his an urge for his soul to go to alot of places, in search for answers. And this guy was cast out of his clan because his belief of Lathander. And he got well payed to go on the ship. And who said Neb was a dwarf? [img]tongue.gif[/img] And if someone said that the only way to get out of your prison is to learn finnese. What would you do? Oh, and that man that learned him, it was a Castout Raskehsa.

[Imrahil]

I've got no problem with people making up their own stories to justify a character they want to play, so I've got no real issue with that aspect of it.

The only times you'll run into something which "contradicts" the past you made up are during NPC conversations, certain dialogue options with a large Red lizard, the Master Wraith in ToB, & the Solar's "Reveal Your Past" dialogues in ToB.

There's really not a whole lot in SoA that is dependent upon the whole Raised-in-CandleKeep aspect of the protagonist.

I think your biggest challenges with the character may be getting the whole thing to work in game. You do have ShadowKeeper, right? [img]smile.gif[/img]

You'll probably need to create your character as a Human Cleric of Lathander, then Dual to Fighter, then go into SK & change your race to Dwarf & your Kit to Kensai (you'll no longer receive any more "Boon of Lathander" abilities, but I think you should keep the ones you already had).

As for being proficient in Bladed weapons, you'll probably have to revisit SK every time you gain a proficiency in order to move a * from a valid weapon into the one you want.

As for actually equipping Bladed weapons, you could go a couple of routes...
- I think Ashes of Embers (see icelus' MOD post) has a universal weapons component
- you can give your character the Use Any Item Ability (with SK) & restrict yourself to only abusing it for weapon choices
- you can put illegal weapons into your weapon slots using SK (you'll have to repeat this if you ever unequip your weapon, though)

Good luck getting it all to work...

- Imrahil