New Imp. Irenicus (Tactics v 17 spolier and some possible MAJOR bugs)

[teardropmina]

ok, compared to this battle, Bodhi's like a piece of cake.

it took me several tries to beat it, cannot really feel the difference between v16 and v17 since the last time I cheesed myself out with a win [img]tongue.gif[/img] This time, a straight fight, and I finally beat it without losing any of the comrades in the party (though my PC gets fatigue facing the Shattered One because of chasing that DD Irenicus anyone has tip to make him steady????).

anyway, there are two MAJOR signs of bugs. I would need someone who also plays Tactics v17 to confirm, but here are the bugs I found:

1. I thought the mod shouldn't affect the tears of Bhaal part? In the selfish test, Aerie got held. After she's released, I couldn't access her ability button, thpough it said in the character screen that her contigency and sequencer were on. The ability button just went dark brown (not the light blue, ready to use color). Is this a known bug? or it's supposed to be that way? the one gets held loses his/her ability? That doesn't sound right. Worse, it carries over to ToB! Imagine if it's fighters get held, they won't be able to use their HLAs

2. in response to Six review, it's said that the "curse you " has been put back, but after I killed the Shattered One, Irenicus wasn't even in the post-battle animation (it shows my PC shoots magic to the ground), no Irenicus, no speech, no curse my PC.

In this game, I have Tactics v17, NPC flirt pack, and the ToB imp. battles and Ascension installed. They should all be compabitable AFAIK.
Maybe they are bugs, and so those who want to try out, beware; maybe they are not bugs, it's just something screwed up in my installation.

[Jerr Conner]

I just want to say one thing...and sorry that it doesn't help you...

"Curse you, Hemmerhoids! I will not be defeated by you!"

Thank you SixOfSpade for that quote!!!

[teardropmina]

I tried to go back to fix it; this is what I got: I kicked Aeire out of the party, and then went to see Selfish. Guess what, nobody in my party got held, and when I got back to Aeire, she lost her ability all the same. Guess it's in the script that she shall be held and lost her ability?

does anyone know how to fix this??? SK doesn't seem to be designed to cover this problem.

[Olorin]

I think that with cheats enabled there is a way to "cleanse aura" or something like that (ctrl-R?), it fixes odd things like permanent blindness and the like.

I've had a similar problem happen w/o tactics, can't remember exactly where, but I ended up needing to recast the contingencies even though they showed up on the portrait--but the ability wouldn't light up.

[SixOfSpades]

The "Spell Sequencer/Contingency Icon present, but no Abilities button" issue is a known bug, that has no real fix as far as I know.

Workaround Solution: Ctrl-Y, Ctrl-R. You'll have to Rest again to restore the extra spellslots granted by items, but that's better than never being able to cast Contingencies again.

[teardropmina]

thanks Six, it works. intentionally Ctrl-Y Aerie, that hurts [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Jerr Conner]

Originally posted by teardropmina: thanks Six, it works. intentionally Ctrl-Y Aerie, that hurts [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Just think of it as the Hand of Ao, trying to help Aerie...

[Assassin]

Or, you could use the Cloak of the Sewers, transform into a Rat, unleash the Spell Sequencers, then transform right back. Anything that forces the game to light up the Special Abilities button will allow you to take out the Sequencer.

[ 03-18-2004, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

[weimer]

Originally posted by teardropmina: it took me several tries to beat it, cannot really feel the difference between v16 and v17 since the last time I cheesed myself out with a win anyone has tip to make him steady????). 2. in response to Six review, it's said that the "curse you " has been put back, but after I killed the Shattered One

It shouldn't be that different -- just Fear with SI:Abjuration. One trick for not chasing Irenicus is not to go near him. If you stand far away and throw axes at him he will not turn tail and run.

The "Curse You" quote is back in, but it's not part of a cutscene. Irenicus will say it in the middle of the fight when he is hurting. If people would dramatically prefer, I can put more effort into restoring the curse-you cutscene.

[teardropmina]

Originally posted by weimer: quote: Originally posted by teardropmina: it took me several tries to beat it, cannot really feel the difference between v16 and v17 since the last time I cheesed myself out with a win anyone has tip to make him steady????). 2. in response to Six review, it's said that the "curse you " has been put back, but after I killed the Shattered One

It shouldn't be that different -- just Fear with SI:Abjuration. One trick for not chasing Irenicus is not to go near him. If you stand far away and throw axes at him he will not turn tail and run.

The "Curse You" quote is back in, but it's not part of a cutscene. Irenicus will say it in the middle of the fight when he is hurting. If people would dramatically prefer, I can put more effort into restoring the curse-you cutscene. [/QUOTE]mm...the firing from afar tactics...but when he gets hurt to a point, he'll DD away to heal and rebuff, no? There's an effective way; I went back to my good old Jaheira's Insect plague. those insects would atually chase Irenicus (and later the Shattered One). He's still able to DD but some of his spell casting will fail because of the plague, and we can kill him sooner.

I found another bug: when Irenicus dies, the cloak of cheese sometimes drops but sometimes doesn't (I never use that cloak nowadays, but it should drop).

also, the post-battle cut scene really needs fix -- it only shows PC shooting magic on the ground, but no Irenicus present (IIRC, the cut scene shows the PC shoots magic and Irenicus dying).