I would like opinions/debate on the "Find Familiar" spell..

Bredalbane · 10-31-2003, 03:34 AM

..it seems to me that it might not be worth the risk of the constitution loss. I would like to hear the board's input.

Armen · 10-31-2003, 04:26 AM

i've never cast it myself never having had a mage PC but woudln't the effect of the constitution loss on your actual constitution and class - e.g. a mage wiht 17 CON isn't going to miss a point - and that's just if the little fella dies isn't it?

they seem to come into their own with solo mages without a thief component allowing you to pick the odd lock and to pickpocket a very useful early game item (but don't tell me that doesn't take a few reloads at ~50%

)

i guess they could look pretty cool and there could be roleplaying reasons

stuff like that

Dundee Slaytern · 10-31-2003, 04:45 AM

Familiar + Backpack = What CON loss?

Xen · 10-31-2003, 04:51 AM

IMHO Mage doesn`t need CON. He has Stoneskins,Mirror Images... etc. for protection. CON is only for HP`s and CON is important for Fighters. So i don`t give any potato about it.

Tyrion · 10-31-2003, 05:01 AM

well I only use a familiar for more HP and he takes up one slot in my inventory

LennonCook · 10-31-2003, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xen:
IMHO Mage doesn`t need CON. He has Stoneskins,Mirror Images... etc. for protection. CON is only for HP`s and CON is important for Fighters. So i don`t give any potato about it.

Do your stoneskins run out in battle? What about your Mirror Images and other Illusions (excluding clones)? More HP = more chance of surviving once these have gone... long enough, even, to run away and rebuff. A mage's protections are only temporary, and while HP alone isn't something to rely on, it can help as something to fall back on when all else fails.

[ 10-31-2003, 05:05 AM: Message edited by: LennonCook ]

Dundee Slaytern · 10-31-2003, 09:16 AM

Power Word:Kill, Power Word:Stun, Critical Hit, etc... ...

Wise are those who appreciate and understand the benefits of 16 CON for a Sorcerer or Mage.

Klutz · 10-31-2003, 10:13 AM

A couple of the familiars have non-combat (or pre-combat) abilities that are worth taking them out of your inventory for once in a while. The Fairy Dragon (Chaotic Good) can cast Invis 10' radius, and the Ferret (Lawful Neutral) is a decent pickpocket.

Sukodin · 10-31-2003, 10:19 AM

Does anyone have a complete list of what familiars are found for each different type of sorc? (Good / Neutral / Evil)

Armen · 10-31-2003, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sukodin:
Does anyone have a complete list of what familiars are found for each different type of sorc? (Good / Neutral / Evil)

lots of people, e.g:

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...c;f=2;t=022114

10-31-2003, 05:01 AM	#5
Tyrion Quintesson Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: straight outta Kålltorp Age: 38 Posts: 1,081	well I only use a familiar for more HP and he takes up one slot in my inventory __________________ ...with the Bible and the Uzi as weapons

10-31-2003, 10:13 AM	#8
Klutz Manshoon Join Date: November 9, 2002 Location: Houston, TX Age: 52 Posts: 240	A couple of the familiars have non-combat (or pre-combat) abilities that are worth taking them out of your inventory for once in a while. The Fairy Dragon (Chaotic Good) can cast Invis 10' radius, and the Ferret (Lawful Neutral) is a decent pickpocket. __________________ ->Klutz

10-31-2003, 10:19 AM	#9
Sukodin Dungeon Master Join Date: October 13, 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Age: 47 Posts: 53	Does anyone have a complete list of what familiars are found for each different type of sorc? (Good / Neutral / Evil) __________________ Sukodin

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10-31-2003, 03:34 AM	#1
Bredalbane User Suspended for 1 Month [Apr17] Join Date: September 17, 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Age: 70 Posts: 102	..it seems to me that it might not be worth the risk of the constitution loss. I would like to hear the board's input.

10-31-2003, 04:26 AM	#2
Armen Symbol of Cyric Join Date: February 11, 2003 Location: UK Age: 55 Posts: 1,375	i've never cast it myself never having had a mage PC but woudln't the effect of the constitution loss on your actual constitution and class - e.g. a mage wiht 17 CON isn't going to miss a point - and that's just if the little fella dies isn't it? they seem to come into their own with solo mages without a thief component allowing you to pick the odd lock and to pickpocket a very useful early game item (but don't tell me that doesn't take a few reloads at ~50% ) i guess they could look pretty cool and there could be roleplaying reasons stuff like that

10-31-2003, 04:45 AM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Familiar + Backpack = What CON loss?

10-31-2003, 04:51 AM	#4
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	IMHO Mage doesn`t need CON. He has Stoneskins,Mirror Images... etc. for protection. CON is only for HP`s and CON is important for Fighters. So i don`t give any potato about it.

10-31-2003, 09:16 AM	#7
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Power Word:Kill, Power Word:Stun, Critical Hit, etc... ... Wise are those who appreciate and understand the benefits of 16 CON for a Sorcerer or Mage.

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