Monsters (again)

Grendal · 09-11-2003, 07:24 PM

Again Im wishing there was a comprehensive monster guide out there. Assuming this is a D&D based game...would it be of any value to me or any other player for that matter, to buy the D&D Monster manual? I would assume the stats for all monsters in BG would be the same as the P&P game? Frikin Vampires and their level drains are pissin me off!

True_Moose · 09-11-2003, 07:40 PM

I hope you realise that that can easily run you more than what the game costs. Sourcebooks are expensive. I wouldn't advise you use them only for Baldur's Gate. If you're going to play AD&D anyway, great, but otherwise, just look up posts on the subject. Besides, many of the monsters are modified. Otherwise, it's killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer

As for vampires, go for the tested and true. Super-buff (TM) one character, give 'em some form of NPP, then use the rest to snipe and bombard from the back ranks, as Super-Buff (TM) serves as meat shield. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Faceman · 09-11-2003, 07:47 PM

Well you can easily get any mosters stats (if you want that) by Ctrl+Q ing them into your party after a quicksave. The main problem is that SoA is a RPG. As such it acknowledges that not every monster is the same which is of course the purpose of the whole D&D level thing. Like a human lvl5 fighter differs from an elven lvl12 mage, a lvl 4 Ogrillon differs from lvl 7 Ogre Mage. While I'm pretty sure that most of the lesser monsters like goblins or kobolds have the same stats each the problem with the higher monsters is their personal touch in the therefore all too flexible AD&D world. Two same-leveled red Dragons will not be exactly alike like some NPCs have special abilities or like your PC has. Not even two Vampires will match in their stats be they the same level anyway.
So writing a comprehensive monster manual for BG2 is tough. Maybe the D&D manual can help you out for the basics but what weapons/spells/abilities a monster uses is nobody to tell.

Assassin · 09-11-2003, 08:42 PM

CTRL-J, then pressing Enter, will give you the current HP, as well as many other things.

Seraph · 09-11-2003, 09:20 PM

Is something like this http://advancedkid.narod.ru/mm00000.htm what you were looking for?

Grendal · 09-12-2003, 02:24 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys! Seraph...wow..ya that pretty much covers it!

09-11-2003, 07:24 PM	#1
Grendal Manshoon Join Date: June 18, 2003 Location: Vancouver Age: 58 Posts: 220	Again Im wishing there was a comprehensive monster guide out there. Assuming this is a D&D based game...would it be of any value to me or any other player for that matter, to buy the D&D Monster manual? I would assume the stats for all monsters in BG would be the same as the P&P game? Frikin Vampires and their level drains are pissin me off! __________________ When all else fails READ THE DIRECTIONS!

09-11-2003, 07:40 PM	#2
True_Moose Gold Dragon Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB Age: 37 Posts: 2,563	I hope you realise that that can easily run you more than what the game costs. Sourcebooks are expensive. I wouldn't advise you use them only for Baldur's Gate. If you're going to play AD&D anyway, great, but otherwise, just look up posts on the subject. Besides, many of the monsters are modified. Otherwise, it's killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer As for vampires, go for the tested and true. Super-buff (TM) one character, give 'em some form of NPP, then use the rest to snipe and bombard from the back ranks, as Super-Buff (TM) serves as meat shield. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/true_moose/Siggy.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

09-11-2003, 07:47 PM	#3
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 43 Posts: 2,248	Well you can easily get any mosters stats (if you want that) by Ctrl+Q ing them into your party after a quicksave. The main problem is that SoA is a RPG. As such it acknowledges that not every monster is the same which is of course the purpose of the whole D&D level thing. Like a human lvl5 fighter differs from an elven lvl12 mage, a lvl 4 Ogrillon differs from lvl 7 Ogre Mage. While I'm pretty sure that most of the lesser monsters like goblins or kobolds have the same stats each the problem with the higher monsters is their personal touch in the therefore all too flexible AD&D world. Two same-leveled red Dragons will not be exactly alike like some NPCs have special abilities or like your PC has. Not even two Vampires will match in their stats be they the same level anyway. So writing a comprehensive monster manual for BG2 is tough. Maybe the D&D manual can help you out for the basics but what weapons/spells/abilities a monster uses is nobody to tell. __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

09-11-2003, 08:42 PM	#4
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 37 Posts: 1,134	CTRL-J, then pressing Enter, will give you the current HP, as well as many other things. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

09-12-2003, 02:24 PM	#6
Grendal Manshoon Join Date: June 18, 2003 Location: Vancouver Age: 58 Posts: 220	Thanks for the feedback guys! Seraph...wow..ya that pretty much covers it! __________________ When all else fails READ THE DIRECTIONS!

09-11-2003, 09:20 PM	#5
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	Is something like this http://advancedkid.narod.ru/mm00000.htm what you were looking for?

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