Irenicus first fight question, spoiler

Balintherlas · 09-03-2003, 07:19 PM

Is it possible to beat him without the help of the crazy people?

True_Moose · 09-03-2003, 07:22 PM

Yep. It is slightly tougher though.

pcgiant · 09-03-2003, 07:29 PM

Actually, I'm sure that you have to enlist the help of the madmen to beat him.

teardropmina · 09-03-2003, 08:07 PM

I tried to fight him without the help once...it was a slaughter...then I read somewhere we MUST seek help, otherwise we'll all die no matter how many times we try to fight Irenicus alone. never try again~~

True_Moose · 09-03-2003, 08:43 PM

Technically, you have to recruit them, sure. But you can still take him alone. Not to mention they have a nasty habit of dying [img]tongue.gif[/img] .

Question: If I say, unleash a pit fiend/skulltraps/fireballs, whatever during the tour, and kill the inmates, what will happen when the time comes to fight Jon-Bon?

teardropmina · 09-03-2003, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by True_Moose:
Technically, you have to recruit them, sure. But you can still take him alone. Not to mention they have a nasty habit of dying [img]tongue.gif[/img] .

well, I think their help is something decided in the script/story. I'm pretty much sure that without their help, we can beat Irenicus just as easily, as you say, they die pretty quickly. quite frequently, they all die before Irenicus flees.

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Question: If I say, unleash a pit fiend/skulltraps/fireballs, whatever during the tour, and kill the inmates, what will happen when the time comes to fight Jon-Bon?

Never try this before@"@ have you tried doing this? I think, they may die, but will still appear when you get out of the maze because it's written in the script (just like I always manage to kill Saemon before we sink into Sahuagin City, but the narration would always say that he flees (and we certainly meet again later). Or, maybe they'll get together to fight you when they get hurt, and you die no matter what you do^_*

Annatar · 09-04-2003, 02:01 AM

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well, I think their help is something decided in the script/story. I'm pretty much sure that without their help, we can beat Irenicus just as easily, as you say, they die pretty quickly. quite frequently, they all die before Irenicus flees..

This is also a scripted feature, you can't prevent them from dying; and I haven't found a way to prevent them from helping you .. its in the script so.

[ 09-04-2003, 02:05 AM: Message edited by: Annatar ]

Dundee Slaytern · 09-04-2003, 02:09 AM

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Originally posted by Annatar:
~~ and I haven't found a way to prevent them from helping you .. its in the script so.

Simple enough. Do not talk to Lonk the Sane.

SixOfSpades · 09-04-2003, 04:49 AM

I've only tried to fight Irenicus without the loonies once, and as soon as he saw us he initiated a conversation, and my entire party died instantly, thanks to a scripted Wish on Irenicus's part: PC and party die, no check for MR, Saves, or immunities. How nice. I haven't bother to try for a repeat of that since.

In my experience, if you turn any of the inmates (or Lonk) Hostile before Coordinator/Irenicus shows his true colors, they attack you and Irenicus never reveals himself. This is odd, because I find the quickest way to make Irenicus appear is to pickpocket Lonk.

Legos · 09-04-2003, 03:33 PM

Am i correct when i say that the crazies are killed by an "Death Spell"?
I think i once tried to cast death ward on one or a few of them, and they survived... O_o

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teardropmina Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: July 23, 2003 Location: West Lafayette, IN, USA Age: 53 Posts: 681	I tried to fight him without the help once...it was a slaughter...then I read somewhere we MUST seek help, otherwise we'll all die no matter how many times we try to fight Irenicus alone. never try again~~ __________________ In truth, positive certainty is unattainable by man.<br /> --- Charles Sanders Peirce<br /><br />Lilarcor: \"why don\'t we kill that one over there? that spoiler police? hahahaha....\"

09-03-2003, 08:43 PM	#5
True_Moose Gold Dragon Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB Age: 38 Posts: 2,563	Technically, you have to recruit them, sure. But you can still take him alone. Not to mention they have a nasty habit of dying [img]tongue.gif[/img] . Question: If I say, unleash a pit fiend/skulltraps/fireballs, whatever during the tour, and kill the inmates, what will happen when the time comes to fight Jon-Bon? __________________ [img]\"http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/true_moose/Siggy.jpg\" alt=\" - \" />

09-04-2003, 04:49 AM	#9
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	I've only tried to fight Irenicus without the loonies once, and as soon as he saw us he initiated a conversation, and my entire party died instantly, thanks to a scripted Wish on Irenicus's part: PC and party die, no check for MR, Saves, or immunities. How nice. I haven't bother to try for a repeat of that since. In my experience, if you turn any of the inmates (or Lonk) Hostile before Coordinator/Irenicus shows his true colors, they attack you and Irenicus never reveals himself. This is odd, because I find the quickest way to make Irenicus appear is to pickpocket Lonk. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

09-04-2003, 03:33 PM	#10
Legos The Magister Join Date: September 2, 2003 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 125	Am i correct when i say that the crazies are killed by an "Death Spell"? I think i once tried to cast death ward on one or a few of them, and they survived... O_o

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