Blade and 7th and 8th level spells

Xen · 05-10-2003, 09:20 AM

Do you think that is fair for a solo Blade to use 7th and 8th level spells made available with XP CAP REMOVER?

Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 05-10-2003, 09:21 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Voltrath · 05-10-2003, 09:48 AM

Ofcourse it is. If cap remover allows it, it's ok.

SixOfSpades · 05-10-2003, 10:00 PM

It's not the Cap Remover that allows it, it's Weimer's Ease-of-Use MOD. The README says that it "un-nerfs" the Spell Progressions, which I took to mean that pure Mages would finally be able to cast 5 Level 9 spells per day, while still under the ToB EXP cap. But, instead of granting more logical Spell Tables, it just makes more on those Spell Tables:

Bards are supposed to be limited to Spell Levels 1-6. With EoU, Haer'Dalis can memorize & cast Abi-Dalzim's.

Wizards are no longer limited to 5 spellslots of each level--with EoU, Nalia has about as many spellslots as Edwin.

Mahlennacht · 05-10-2003, 11:20 PM

I think 7/8 lvl spells are hardly necessary, they'd make it WAY too easy - I did a solo blade for my first ever solo and she had no problem after she got up to lvl 20 or so... maxed out at 40(?) right about the Underdark... And I don't use ToB, so not even any High-Level-Abilities, all you really need is Tensor's Transformation for your high level spells. In fact in the future I'm thinking of removing the cap and seeing how well a solo PC can manage with that (which is big talk for a soloing newbie, so I better shut up [img]tongue.gif[/img] - but Elmonster (in his Journal from Baldurdash) did it as a mage, so...)

Thuram · 05-11-2003, 06:44 AM

Confirmed! The blade doesn't need those high level spells. I soloed without any cheats, mods, cheesy tactics, etc.

But its up to you - if you have more fun using them, by all means go for it!

Grojlach · 05-11-2003, 01:12 PM

I agree with SixOfSpades... There's nothing logical about a Bard casting 7th and 8th level spells. The official rulebooks don't allow it as far as I know and both SoA and ToB don't allow it either. In my opinion, a blade is strong enough as it is (like Mahlennacht, I've soloed one once as well - though I never finished my attempt. Not because it had gotten too difficult, but because it was annoyingly dull.

Raistlin Majere · 05-11-2003, 01:24 PM

I find all solo games utterly boring, wheter or not you have tactics and play on insane. for a while it can be very challenging, but after you hit high enough levels, theres really no point to it. I started a solo game three times, but never got past level 17, at which point it has already been very boring.

05-10-2003, 10:00 PM	#3
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	It's not the Cap Remover that allows it, it's Weimer's Ease-of-Use MOD. The README says that it "un-nerfs" the Spell Progressions, which I took to mean that pure Mages would finally be able to cast 5 Level 9 spells per day, while still under the ToB EXP cap. But, instead of granting more logical Spell Tables, it just makes more on those Spell Tables: Bards are supposed to be limited to Spell Levels 1-6. With EoU, Haer'Dalis can memorize & cast Abi-Dalzim's. Wizards are no longer limited to 5 spellslots of each level--with EoU, Nalia has about as many spellslots as Edwin. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

05-11-2003, 01:24 PM	#7
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	I find all solo games utterly boring, wheter or not you have tactics and play on insane. for a while it can be very challenging, but after you hit high enough levels, theres really no point to it. I started a solo game three times, but never got past level 17, at which point it has already been very boring. __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

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05-10-2003, 09:20 AM	#1
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Do you think that is fair for a solo Blade to use 7th and 8th level spells made available with XP CAP REMOVER? Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img] [ 05-10-2003, 09:21 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

05-10-2003, 09:48 AM	#2
Voltrath Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: April 17, 2003 Location: Geneva Age: 39 Posts: 44	Ofcourse it is. If cap remover allows it, it's ok.

05-10-2003, 11:20 PM	#4
Mahlennacht Drow Warrior Join Date: September 10, 2001 Location: CA, USA Age: 61 Posts: 298	I think 7/8 lvl spells are hardly necessary, they'd make it WAY too easy - I did a solo blade for my first ever solo and she had no problem after she got up to lvl 20 or so... maxed out at 40(?) right about the Underdark... And I don't use ToB, so not even any High-Level-Abilities, all you really need is Tensor's Transformation for your high level spells. In fact in the future I'm thinking of removing the cap and seeing how well a solo PC can manage with that (which is big talk for a soloing newbie, so I better shut up [img]tongue.gif[/img] - but Elmonster (in his Journal from Baldurdash) did it as a mage, so...)

05-11-2003, 06:44 AM	#5
Thuram Dungeon Master Join Date: September 6, 2002 Location: Spain Age: 52 Posts: 77	Confirmed! The blade doesn't need those high level spells. I soloed without any cheats, mods, cheesy tactics, etc. But its up to you - if you have more fun using them, by all means go for it!

05-11-2003, 01:12 PM	#6
Grojlach Zartan Join Date: May 2, 2001 Location: Ulpia Noviomagus Batavorum Age: 44 Posts: 5,281	I agree with SixOfSpades... There's nothing logical about a Bard casting 7th and 8th level spells. The official rulebooks don't allow it as far as I know and both SoA and ToB don't allow it either. In my opinion, a blade is strong enough as it is (like Mahlennacht, I've soloed one once as well - though I never finished my attempt. Not because it had gotten too difficult, but because it was annoyingly dull.

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