Underdark general questions *spoilers*

[Rapida]

1. I am a undead hunter and my party is minsc valygar keldorn aerie and jan. Now i've been in the underdark for a while and just got the quest where i had killed the wrong beholder so now i got to go kill one of the 3 noble races. I plan to go through all three so whats the best order
Here is the order i plan to go through the city/lair things.. (1. Beholders (2. Fish thingies (3. err Mind flayers hehe

2. Im really scared of the Ith.. Ithil..Mind Flayers and i probaly will do those last. Any other tips when im fighting them?

3. I just bought this rope from this merchant in the drow city and he says it was jarlaxes when will he come and get it?

Ok well im consider myself roleplaying this undead hunter but i can justify any before hand spells cast on my self by the logic "hmm walking into a city/lair full of enemies.. maybe i should cast haste .etc."

If any more information is needed please specify.

[Grammar]

1. Kuo-Toa is the easiest to do first. Are you sure you want to do all three? If you are going to do all three, it's probably best that you only do one now and the other two after you finish the whole Adalon thing.

2. Cast Chaotic Commands on your fighters and use people with a good AC to melee them (The Illithid, not your fighters to death. Archer is quite helpful if you have one.

3. Spoiler
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Go to the Lich's tower (Deirex). It's South/West the temple of Lolth in Ust'Natha. Just follow the little series there and you'll soon find Jarlaxle.

[SixOfSpades]

Have you done the Cult of the Unseeing Eye quest? If so, you know what awaits you in the Beholder lair. It could be easy as pie, or it could be sheer hell, depending on how you prepare. Warning: There's an Elder Orb in there that will cast a spell that is not common to most Beholders, and you will NOT like it. Happily, he/she/it can only cast it once.

Mind Flayers: Once you enter, you CAN NOT LEAVE until you beat it.
You will need a Tank with a) a good AC, 2) a really low Save vs. Spells, and c) More than 10 INT.
Due to a bug, Charming the Mind Flayers will work for what you need them to do, but Charming the Ulitharids will not work. (Is BaldurDash doing something about this?)

Kou-Toa: How these things manage to compete with Illithids is beyond me. The scariest thing about them is that they can all see right through all forms of invisibility.

[Rapida]

Originally posted by Grammar: 1. Kuo-Toa is the easiest to do first. Are you sure you want to do all three? If you are going to do all three, it's probably best that you only do one now and the other two after you finish the whole Adalon thing. .

O cool i didnt know you could do that well that does make it easier on me cause im sick of these stuck up drow and all their orders. Ill go kill the Fish thingies.

2 SixofSpades

O man you got me worried about the beholder well i dont know want to know it ability ill probaly figure it out the hard way hehe.
My main charecter has like -4 ac but i can make that like -7 and valygar has -6 Is that good enough? o yea and my main character has 11 intelligence.

OK i will remember about the invisibility on the Kuo-Toa (sp?). I guess that was why they can always kill my wizard's eyes

[ 04-07-2003, 08:15 PM: Message edited by: Rapida ]

[Pirengle]

I'm probably gonna be the third responder to this post, but what the heck...

1. I am a undead hunter and my party is minsc valygar keldorn aerie and jan. Now i've been in the underdark for a while and just got the quest where i had killed the wrong beholder so now i got to go kill one of the 3 noble races. I plan to go through all three so whats the best order
Here is the order i plan to go through the city/lair things.. (1. Beholders (2. Fish thingies (3. err Mind flayers hehe

Do all three of them, even though you only need blood from one. There's lots of great loot and experience to be had.
Kuo-Toan Lair (Western tunnels): They're not marked, so you're going to have to do some poking around in the Underdark to find them. It's right below the Sfvirneblin (deep gnome) village. Easiest of the three, IMO. Heck, there's another battle in the lair that's harder than the battle for the blood. (As Six says, "place" is misleading. Items don't work. There's a nearby fish that was most likely placed there to help you figure this one out.
Beholder Lair (Southern tunnels): You don't need to go far to get what you need, but poke around here anyway for major treasure. Chaotic Commands help against the Elder Orbs. There are plenty around here. And remember the cloak of cheese mirroring you picked up in Shark City?
Illithid (Mind Flayer) Lair (Western tunnels): This place can only be difficult if a) you're not prepared for mind flayers and b) you're not attentive enough to the puzzles around you. There's one puzzle that might trip you up, but the answers to it can either be found on your person or in the lair itself.

2. Im really scared of the Ith.. Ithil..Mind Flayers and i probaly will do those last. Any other tips when im fighting them?

Best way to fight mind flayers: Give your best fighter(s) potions of genius and cast the cleric spell Chaotic Commands on them. Potions of genius are like healing potions for the mind, and chaotically commander characters can't be stunned by psionic blasts or confused by umber hulks. Stick your melee fighters right by one of the doors. Open it, and leave enough room in front of the door for only one or two mind flayers to stand. Have a mage fire a cloudkill to get rid of the umber hulks. Let your protected fighters clean up the mind flayers and your archers pepper their illithid hides with arrows, bolts, and stones.

3. I just bought this rope from this merchant in the drow city and he says it was jarlaxes when will he come and get it?

Remember what the merchant said about about the rope? More specifically, where about using the rope? Try going there and seeing what happens.

Ok well im consider myself roleplaying this undead hunter but i can justify any before hand spells cast on my self by the logic "hmm walking into a city/lair full of enemies.. maybe i should cast haste .etc."

There's a difference between roleplaying and powergaming. You also know when you're walking right into a den of stinking evil or the Den of Seven Vales. So before you go covering Boo's nose and leaving no crevice untouched, by all means, buff up.

(A nice trick: Aerie can cast both cleric and mage spells from a minor sequencer or a spell sequencer. Spells cast by a sequencer are near instantaneous. Instead of casting your blessings and chantings and hastings before battle, have Aerie prep a spell sequencer with bless, chant, and haste. Find yourself in the heat of battle? Pause the game and have Aerie fire off that sequencer. Unpause the game, and presto! Tough and buff. )

[SixOfSpades]

Originally posted by Pirengle the BNM: Have a mage fire a cloudkill to get rid of the umber hulks. Let your protected fighters clean up the mind flayers and your archers pepper their illithid hides with arrows, bolts, and stones.

A slight difference in tactics--I tend to leave the Umber Hulks alone, using them as shields: If an Umber Hulk is standing right in front of my Tank, that means the Mind Flayers can only come at me 1 at a time instead of 2 at a time. And in that place, cutting the enemy's rate of Critical Hits in half makes all the difference.

[Rapida]

IM loving these stragetigies. lol
I think i will be able to kill the beholders and the fish pretty easily. The special ability of the elder orb has me a little worried but im sure i can handle it. I think i have 2 potions of genius. Now im thinking i might survive this. o well now im gonna start on the fish.. Come mere fishy fishy fishy. mwahahah

[Lord Demerol]

A last (and probably late) tip: Once you're turned into a Drow, visit the Duergar Merchants. They'll show you some goodies, now with some spells they didn't have before in their stock... including a glorious 'Mordenkainen's Sword' scroll.

...and the Mordy Sword is inmune to all that psionic crap... get it?

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[Annatar]

Spell Immunity is the answer you seek...!

[Rapida]

k i will look for this fabled SPELL IMMUNITY and mordiakans sword since only the Kuo-Toa felt my vengeance last night. Today i plan on finishing the other 2 well at least the beholders

well after school lol

[ 04-08-2003, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: Rapida ]