Man claiming to have bomb shot at Airport.

[Lanesra]

Originally posted by machinehead: quote: Originally posted by Aragorn1: IRA suicided bombers, when was that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bombing
In Northern Ireland, in the early 1990s, the IRA forced men to become suicide bombers by threatening their families. The men were forced to drive vehicles containing bombs at British army or Royal Ulster Constabulary bases. [/QUOTE]They weren't suicide bombers!!! They got out and ran away before detonation.!!

Suicide bombers - when will the supply ever run out?

[machinehead]

Wednesday 24 October 1990 'Proxy Bomb' Attacks
The Irish Republican Army (IRA) launched three bomb attacks at British Army check points. The attacks became know as 'proxy bombs' or 'human bombs' because three Catholic men, whom the IRA claimed had worked for the security forces, were tied into cars which had been loaded with explosives and ordered to drive to the check points. At the Coshquin checkpoint near Derry five soldiers and the man who was forced to drive the car were all killed. In a second attack, at Killeen near Newry, a soldier was killed. The third bomb, that had been driven to Omagh, County Tyrone, failed to detonate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Suicide_bombing

[ 12-11-2005, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: machinehead ]

[Sir Degrader]

Let's try and get back on topic gentlemen...

[Timber Loftis]

1984 is coming true. Don't yell, don't run, you'll get shot.

"The law'll come and getcha if you don't walk right." -- Grateful Dead

Folks, When and if! You swear an OATH to protect the citizens of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic, that MEANS PROTECT and DEFEND. If you MUST use lethal force, then IT HAD BETTER be LETHAL! Because the enemy don't give a rats backside!

What enemy? I don't see any enemy except THE STATE. Dumbass ululaters get lucky a couple of times, and our government sees their bet, and raises them many more American lives. Only an idiot uses a sledge hammer to swat flies.

[Ronn_Bman]

Regarding the subject of the 'bomber' being bipolar, does that really make any difference even after the fact? I'm not completely hip on bipolarism, but does it make one delusional to the point they might believe they have an 'imaginary' bomb?

My ex-wife (we were married for seven years and have been divorced for 11 glorious years) was diagnosed as being bipolar a couple of years ago. She actually has a severe case which results in an inability to even hold a job, so she receives a disability check from the government each month. Now my current wife thinks she is milking the system, but I firmly believe that if anyone deserves disability for being mentally ill - it IS my ex-wife.

I'm being a bit flip in saying that, but I'm actually quite serious. Her diagnosis answers many questions for me.

My point is, despite her being hard (even impossible)to get along with and being somewhat paranoid, she was never prone to fantasy (not even when it would have helped the marriage ). I'm sure bipolarism manifests in many way and to varying degrees, but it seems strange to me that the fact the 'would be bomber' was or was not bipolar plays into this story anymore than if he were obsessive/compulsive...

Now, I haven't been to this forum in quite a while, so if someone could go ahead and tear into me for this post, it would certainly make me feel like I'm home again.

[ 12-14-2005, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

[Chewbacca]

Most Mentally ill people are no more dangerous than yelling and odd behavior are dangerous. Neither yelling nor odd behavior in and of itself is dangerous. My wife works with dozens of mentally ill people, ranging from Schitzophrenics to Bi-polars. For years she has not once felt endangered by any of them.

I doubt Mr. Alapazar had any delusions. I suspect that he had a manic fit, an episode of panic and fright triggered by fear of flying or something else. This is something medication can control.

If he did indeed claim to have a bomb as some crewmember's and air marshalls claim, it was probably not planned behavior or a delusion, but a fight-or-flight reaction.

From what I understand, Bi-Polars are the greatest threat to themselves. There is a high suicide rate amongst them (like 40%).The great emotional high/terrible low nature of the disease can make self-medication as difficult as giving up a great high. Quite challenging and they deserve whatever help they can get!

Hi Ronn! [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 12-14-2005, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ]

[Timber Loftis]

Ronn, you're wrong and what you said is absolutely stupid!!

Erm... I mean, welcome back, man. [img]graemlins/cheers.gif[/img]

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally posted by Sir Degrader: Let's try and get back on topic gentlemen...

To hop back off topic, why do people here insist on assuming everyone else is a 17-25 pasty white heterosexual male? It grates the nerves.

As for bipolar people, they are indeed a greater threat to themselves and others. In addition to that, it's unlikely that a bipolar person would bring a bomb with them like that. Episodes are fight or flight and extremely primal, as mentioned, and a bomb is a premeditated thing. Of course, his being bipolar wasn't brought up for consideration in the moment, so the point is moot.

[Sir Degrader]

Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar: quote: Originally posted by Sir Degrader: Let's try and get back on topic gentlemen...

To hop back off topic, why do people here insist on assuming everyone else is a 17-25 pasty white heterosexual male? It grates the nerves.
[/QUOTE]Veemen must speak only ven spoken to! My apologies Illumina, I'll try to be more considerate next time.

[ 12-15-2005, 05:33 PM: Message edited by: Sir Degrader ]