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SecretMaster 12-07-2005 05:50 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10367598/

Breaking news right now.

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MIAMI - A passenger who claimed to have a bomb in a carry-on bag was shot and killed by a federal air marshal Wednesday on a jetway to an American Airlines plane that had arrived from Colombia, officials said.

Homeland Security Department spokesman Brian Doyle said the dead passenger was a 44-year-old U.S. citizen. NBC News’ Pete Williams said an official identified the man as Rigoberto Alpizar.

It was the first time since the Sept. 11 attacks that an air marshal had shot at a passenger or suspect, he said. A witness said that the man frantically ran down the aisle of the Boeing 757 and that a woman with him said he was mentally ill.

The passenger, who indicated there was a bomb in the bag, was confronted by air marshals but ran off the aircraft, Doyle said.

The marshals pursued and ordered the passenger to get on the ground, but the man did not comply and was shot when apparently reaching into the bag, Doyle said.

NBC News confirmed that authorities searching the man’s carry-on bag did not find a bomb.

Passenger Mary Gardner told WTVJ in Miami that the man ran down the aisle from the rear of the plane. “He was frantic, his arms flailing in the air,” she said. She said a woman followed, shouting, “My husband! My husband!”

Man reportedly bipolar
Gardner said she heard the woman say her husband was bipolar and had not had his medication.

The plane, Flight 924, had arrived from Medellin, Colombia, at 12:16 p.m. and was scheduled to depart two hours later for Orlando, American Airlines spokesman Tim Wagner said.

“I don’t know yet if the passenger had been on the plane and was getting off, or was starting to board the aircraft,” he said.

The shooting happened shortly after 2 p.m., suggesting passengers may have already been preparing to depart, he said. About 105 passengers scheduled to fly to Orlando, he said.

Martin Gonzalez, spokesman for Colombia’s civil aviation agency, said the flight had “left normally with no problems.”

Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., a senior member of the Homeland Security Committee, praised the air marshals’ actions.

“Air marshals put their lives on the line every day to keep us safe,” he said. “Thanks to the efforts of an alert air marshal, an individual was prevented from causing a potentially dangerous situation on the American Airlines flight that could have harmed passengers and crew members.”

Air Marshals are trained to shoot to kill. They have the most stringent small-arms training standards among law enforcement agencies.

There were only 32 air marshals at the time of the Sept. 11 attacks. The Bush administration hired thousands more afterward, though the exact number is classified.

Madman 12-07-2005 06:03 PM

thats mental that they didnt find a bomb. guess the air marshalls did what they thought they had to tho

Sir Degrader 12-07-2005 06:14 PM

Wrong forum. I agree with the marshall. You claim to have a bomb in an airplane, you've forfeited the right to life.

Timber Loftis 12-07-2005 06:14 PM

It's mental that a woman screaming that her husband is bipolar and has no bomb is ignored by Mr. Johnny "Cowboy" Law.

Sir Degrader 12-07-2005 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
It's mental that a woman screaming that her husband is bipolar and has no bomb is ignored by Mr. Johnny "Cowboy" Law.
1)How was he supposed to know she wasn't lying?
2)How was he supposed to know the husband was retarded?
3)How was he supposed to know there was no bomb?

Hivetyrant 12-07-2005 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
It's mental that a woman screaming that her husband is bipolar and has no bomb is ignored by Mr. Johnny "Cowboy" Law.

1)How was he supposed to know she wasn't lying?
2)How was he supposed to know the husband was retarded?
3)How was he supposed to know there was no bomb?
</font>[/QUOTE]He wasn't, but that doesn't mean he should ignore her.

Sir Degrader 12-07-2005 07:08 PM

Are you joking? With the trend of islamic terrorists using women for their own ends, not only would he be justified shooting the man, but also shooting the woman.

Winter Wolf 12-07-2005 07:19 PM

It might be brutal, but it was an effective and called for solution in this case. If the guy really *did* have a bomb and he got into the terminal, how many more lives could have been lost? People, crazy or not, should know not to do stupid things like claiming they have bombs. It's also entirely possible that he was in a very severe depressive phase and was banking on losing his life through that ploy.

Illumina Drathiran'ar 12-07-2005 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Degrader:
Are you joking? With the trend of islamic terrorists using women for their own ends, not only would he be justified shooting the man, but also shooting the woman.
You're right. She should have instead remained seated, quietly, and remained out of danger. Otherwise next time she'll get what's coming to her.

Sir Degrader 12-07-2005 07:37 PM

Are you joking or no? I can't tell over the net.


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