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Old 05-19-2002, 08:35 PM   #51
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No, I don't take names like Elminster etc seriously, either. But at least most AD&D-type medieval fantasies (and Chinese wu-hsia fantasies, too, which I love very much) are -- well, supposedly -- modelled after things, places and events which historically actually existed. (This is especially true of wu-hsia fantasies.) To that extent, they feel more credible. They work more for me. And they actually also possess that much more charm for me as well by virtue of being something that might have existed.

The same can't be said of SW.

Oh, and I'm aware of those absurdities you mentioned, too, Rikard. I merely haven't the time to indulge my abhorrance of SW that far.

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Old 05-19-2002, 11:01 PM   #52
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It's science FICTION, meant to entertain. Kinda like RPG's! I understand your point about the hype being everywhere you turn, but Lucasfilm is attempting to recreate the success of the original trilogy, much the same as game developers do when creating a sequel. The odd one gets it right (BG2), but most fail to compare with the original even as none of the Star Wars movies even comes close to meeting the magic of the Original Star Wars: A new hope
Are you kidding? The Empire Strikes Back was quite a bit better than the original (although I will agree with you that the original was a masterpiece).
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Old 05-20-2002, 12:26 AM   #53
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Forget names, settings, technological advances; forget it all. First and foremost, Star Wars is about the ability of the human spirit to triumph over technology and about the struggle between good and evil. These are motifs that have remained popular for centuries through novels, operas, plays, and other movies because those motifs are central to our own development.
Episodes 4, 5, and 6 are not about a successful rebellion against a Galatic Empire, they are about a son's love redeeming his father. Period. Anyone who misses this has not really watched the movies or is too young to fully understand them.

Sergio Leone adapted samurai characters into Western gunslingers; why can't Lucas turn them into Jedi?

A lightsaber, as stated elsewhere, is primarily for defense; they can cut through any armor, deflect any energy, and are indestructible. They are physical representations of how a person's feelings can overcome technology.

Finally, if you enjoy critiquing movies (like I do) then analyze the movie. However, don't make the mistake of over-rationalizing the movies, for that is not the point of any film.
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Old 05-20-2002, 05:55 AM   #54
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Absolutely loved Episode 2! Did anyone catch a good glimpse of Dooku's Lightsaber with the curved handle? I dont know but that was pretty cool..
Personally I thought the movie started out OK but got really good once it got along. I think I'm the only one who actually really appreciates the story behind Episode 2. I can actually understand what people watching Empire Strikes Back must have felt way back then, when the future of our brave heroes hang in the balance, and you had to wait 3-4 years for the next installment.
Did anyone actually feel pretty sad about the ending? How you KNOW that Anakin's life is gonna be destroyed? I think George Lucas did a good job with making the viewers feel for the characters. I couldnt help but feel pretty down knowing that 90% of the characters in Episode 2 will die in Episode 3 (Padme, Windu, Anakin, of a sorts..)
Other than that I thought everything was excellent. Even Anakin's odd accent seemed right.

K T Ong, just take a chill pill and accept it that most people like Star Wars. Its entertainment. Personally I cant stand people that take a contrary standpoint to pop culture just to stand out or be different. If its good, enjoy it! No need to spoil the fun for everyone else! Just a thought.
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Old 05-20-2002, 06:00 AM   #55
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Yep, it felt rather awful knowing that it's all going to turn horribly wrong for Anakin and Amidala. That's why I thought the musical accompaniment towards the end of the show particularly apt.
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Old 05-20-2002, 07:11 AM   #56
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lifetime, i agree with you. i think the script and story were very good. i can certainly feel when things are corny of overacted (like in episode I), but i really liked the love story and acting by christiansen and portman.

the effects were ok, but for me the best part was the love story, and the search and travelling of the first part. the ending was absolutely f****** awesome. bittersweet, leaving you a little sad for the outcome. inevitability is this films heart, rather than the first trilogy, that was somewhat unpredictable.

it evens makes sense of episode I. that was the set up, with the happy ending. and episode III is going to be in lucas own words... "dark, very dark". i cant wait. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-20-2002, 07:28 AM   #57
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The love story? LOL!!! I thought that part proved George Lucas COULDN'T write love stories to save his life

Anakin: "I slaughtered everybody. The men, the women and children like they were animals"
Amidala: "oh never mind sweety. *hug*"

they're MAD!!!
 
Old 05-20-2002, 08:09 AM   #58
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Originally posted by K T Ong:
No, I don't take names like Elminster etc seriously, either. But at least most AD&D-type medieval fantasies (and Chinese wu-hsia fantasies, too, which I love very much) are -- well, supposedly -- modelled after things, places and events which historically actually existed. (This is especially true of wu-hsia fantasies.) To that extent, they feel more credible. They work more for me. And they actually also possess that much more charm for me as well by virtue of being something that might have existed.

The same can't be said of SW.

Oh, and I'm aware of those absurdities you mentioned, too, Rikard. I merely haven't the time to indulge my abhorrance of SW that far.
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Old 05-20-2002, 08:51 AM   #59
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I thought it was good overall, but the love story bit was just a little too soppy and long for me. I thought Lucas could have shortened the romance scenes.

I also thought Padme was insane for declaring her love for Anakin after Anakin had declared he had killed an entire encampment of Tuskan Raiders.

Not as good as Eps 4-6, but much, much better than Ep 1. Thumbs up.
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Old 05-21-2002, 12:52 PM   #60
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I saw it last Friday... it was great!!!

Yoda was the man... .wow... and that Purple Lightsaber... Windu's the bomb too!!!

Hehehe and rolling down the hill.. rolling down the hill.. grass is green.. weeeee!!!
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