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Old 09-25-2006, 11:29 AM   #31
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If you think they will commit the same crime again, surely a better option is not to release them.
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Old 09-25-2006, 12:07 PM   #32
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I had one of these guys walk into my dojo many years ago, at the time I didnt know it. He stayed around and watched the 2 kids classes I had, and then wanted to sign up for the adult class and asked if he could come in early so he could "watch". He seemed alright, turns out he was an early release that was said to have been rehabilitated for what ever that means. He kidnapped 2 children from the rec center and killed them 3 weeks later. I feel partially responsable because I let this scumbag into the class, one of the children murdered,he killed after he raped him, was one of my students, he was only 8 years old. I love these registeries, I look at them often, and if I see any of these fine outstanding people anywhere near my home, I will twist them till there limbs break after I call the police that is [img]smile.gif[/img] .
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:26 PM   #33
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You know, in a democracy the correct way to get your neighbourhood free of child molestors is changing the laws so that they all get death. The more direct approach of injuring them until they give up and leave is reserved monstly for anarchy.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:17 PM   #34
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For all those saying "they'e paid their dues" have you considered that registering for the registry is part of "paying your dues"?

It's part of the sentence. Public shame is part of the punishment. As Larry has said, if it keeps people from putting their kids in danger unawares, then that's a healthy thing.

I like the registry as it creates a community awareness like in times past. A person can't hide behind the anonyminity of a large and mobile city/nation. It helps communities protect each other.

A rape victim lives with the consequences of the crime all their life. The emotional scarring, a baby perhaps, or a damaged womb. Why should the perpetrator not deal with life-long consequences also? It's a heinous thing to commit a sexual crime. Enormously anti-social. Perhaps this registry creates a better understanding of the word "anti-social".

I'm with you Larry.
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Old 09-25-2006, 04:20 PM   #35
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You know, in a democracy the correct way to get your neighbourhood free of child molestors is changing the laws so that they all get death.
Nope. Then society becomes the monster to get rid of monsters. If society wants it's citizens to respect human life, it has to start from the top, by decreeing there is never a situation where one human may kill another.
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:22 PM   #36
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Originally posted by Melchior:
For all those saying "they'e paid their dues" have you considered that registering for the registry is part of "paying your dues"?

It's part of the sentence. Public shame is part of the punishment. As Larry has said, if it keeps people from putting their kids in danger unawares, then that's a healthy thing.

I like the registry as it creates a community awareness like in times past. A person can't hide behind the anonyminity of a large and mobile city/nation. It helps communities protect each other.

A rape victim lives with the consequences of the crime all their life. The emotional scarring, a baby perhaps, or a damaged womb. Why should the perpetrator not deal with life-long consequences also? It's a heinous thing to commit a sexual crime. Enormously anti-social. Perhaps this registry creates a better understanding of the word "anti-social".

Wow, Melchior...I like the way you think! (and consequently write)

I really liked the post.
(And the support from all those that understand this registry as a useful/beneficial tool).

You too, Elif! That was some insightful information you posted there.


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Old 09-25-2006, 07:01 PM   #37
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For all those saying "they'e paid their dues" have you considered that registering for the registry is part of "paying your dues"?

It's part of the sentence. Public shame is part of the punishment. As Larry has said, if it keeps people from putting their kids in danger unawares, then that's a healthy thing.

I like the registry as it creates a community awareness like in times past. A person can't hide behind the anonyminity of a large and mobile city/nation. It helps communities protect each other.

A rape victim lives with the consequences of the crime all their life. The emotional scarring, a baby perhaps, or a damaged womb. Why should the perpetrator not deal with life-long consequences also? It's a heinous thing to commit a sexual crime. Enormously anti-social. Perhaps this registry creates a better understanding of the word "anti-social".

I'm with you Larry.
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:46 AM   #38
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We should think of moderation here,
just imagine a person who did it just once and he was a foolish p1ssed drunk who didnt know any better and his hands were just all over the place. Of course the woman would sue sexual harrasement there and then. He goes to court, gets no jail time but HAS a record for sexual assault. Now in the record will only say he did a sexual crime but in the eyes of people he is might as well be a pedophile or a rapist.

In a way I am glad they did a seperate markings on the offenders crimes in the website. But then again, if this system works for the greater whole, then lets use it. NY is one of the safest places city in the world and thats got to mean something.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:46 AM   #39
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Yeah, I know someone who was with an underage girl and went down for it. There was merely a two year difference in age but she fell below the legal age. The relationship was something they both pursued. I remember I would see them holding hands in public but thought they were both 18+ so never looked twice. Well, when the parents got wind of it they called the cops and he went down for statutory rape. Then his name was added to a list and people started talking about it.

He explained it to me and a friend one day, said it ruined his life and that his name was even posted in shop windows. The girl was hardly emotionally scarred since she still sees him now that she is past the age of consent. I believe him because she was right there when he was telling us, saying how she couldn't believe her parents did that! I hardly class that as a 'sexual crime' as we know it and yet he pays the price for it and she gets nothing. Another half of me says that he violated the law and that's that. I think that this is almost grey area.
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Old 09-26-2006, 07:52 PM   #40
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The registry details the type and severity of the crime.
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