ppl or people

[GokuZool]

I don't mind if people use SMS/MSN style type. As long as it's not too obscure!

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[ 03-11-2003, 04:48 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

[Kaltia]

Originally posted by Kakero: well, on chat programs like mIRC or ICQ, you need to type fast. so you ought to use abbreviation.

Actually I don't agree with that, kakero-I use standard non-colloquial(sp.?) english in chatrooms, texting, and on the aforementioned programmes.
I find PPL annoying because it's used by lazy "ppl". Grrrrrrrrrr........
I can rant and rant about the way the English language is being mutilated by the internet and mobile phones for AGES.

[Kaltia]

Originally posted by Gangrell: I can take a certain number of abbreviations, but filling out pages or sentences at a time is ridiculous, but if this keeps it, it may become a new language [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

Actually there was a case a while ago of a girl doing her English Literature A-level in "textese", since there is no "SPAG(spelling, punctuation and grammer)" mark at A-level standard.

[slicer15]

Originally posted by Kaltia: Quote: Originally posted by Gangrell: I can take a certain number of abbreviations, but filling out pages or sentences at a time is ridiculous, but if this keeps it, it may become a new language [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

Actually there was a case a while ago of a girl doing her English Literature A-level in "textese", since there is no "SPAG(spelling, punctuation and grammer)" mark at A-level standard.[/QUOTE]Similar to the article Grojlach posted a little while back. To those kind of things I just say....no.

[WillowIX]

Originally posted by GokuZool: I don't mind if people use SMS/MSN style type. As long as it's not too obscure! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

ROTFL! [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

OK perhaps I´m going off topic now but we are discussing the English language. Another thing that bothers me is the use of swear words as a mean of putting emphasis on words. He wasn´t late, he was "*insert bad word* late". Since I detest the use of bad language I find this very upsetting.

I know, and I´m very glad that, this is not accepted on IW. If it was allowed I would probably not be in here. (Yes this is a pat on the back to you mods ).

Edit: I do accept and use the word "dang" though. I believe this is accepted here on IW as well right?

[ 03-11-2003, 02:43 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]

[Kakero]

Originally posted by Kaltia: Quote: Originally posted by Kakero: well, on chat programs like mIRC or ICQ, you need to type fast. so you ought to use abbreviation.

Actually I don't agree with that, kakero-I use standard non-colloquial(sp.?) english in chatrooms, texting, and on the aforementioned programmes.
I find PPL annoying because it's used by lazy "ppl". Grrrrrrrrrr........
I can rant and rant about the way the English language is being mutilated by the internet and mobile phones for AGES.[/QUOTE]maybe but from my experience ,what if you are chatting with 12 - 13 people at one time? do you still type the full words? this will make you extra slow . people will start asking whether you are busy or ask why you ignore their message when really you are still typing person A's reply.

when the next day you come to the same chat room the people usually don't want to chat with you anymore.

[Kaltia]

I frequantly talk in crowded chatrooms. I can type incredibly fast even with only one hand-not quite touch typing but close. I have a fairly decent grasp of spelling and grammer and still use it despite a defunct keyboard-the trick is to let people get used to you speaking in that way [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Link]

I must agree with the majority of the members who have posted here. I also don't like abbrevations of words, although it is not totally true that they "orginated" only in chat programs. It seems more logical to me that they are a product of SMS. Some providers limit the amount of letters in an SMS, and that can be very annoying if you want to type an entire story (after all SMS is usually cheaper than calling someone) and you're out of letters. So you start to use abbrevations so the other can still understand it, AND you can say what you wanted to say.

About spelling and stuff like that; I'm not a native English speaker, although my mum did teach me both English and Dutch, and I know that I'm not. Sometimes when I'm rereading my earlier posts, I'm ashamed of what kind of grammatical errors (some or so stupid that my eyes almost pop right out of my head) I've made.
As a frequent visitor of the Baldur's Gate 2: SoA and ToB forums here, I am quite used to people typing names (you can't believe how many people have difficulties typing relatively simple names like Kangaxx, Anomen, Firkraag (sharing the number one position along with Kangaxx, I think). I even think that there are more degenerations of those particular names than there are of Grojlach's) or places or anything incorrect.

What comes to mind as well, is that I notice that many NATIVE English speakers tend to use these abbrevations. "Why?" is my major question then. Is it really so hard to try and type those extra letters. What is the major difference between "ppl" and "people". Three lousy letters. Come on, pull yourself together. Degenerating (true) words that way isn't even necessary. If you type a lot, you'll eventually start typing faster, which makes abbrevations obsolete.
Besides this, some native English speakers also tend to make enormous spelling errors. I'm not talking about typo's or something like that, but more things like this:
"So were can I find them?" "Are their any spoilers?"
The first sentence can be considered as a typo, I admit, but the second one??? [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img] It really astonishes me that some native English speakers make these kind of mistakes.

[ 03-11-2003, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: Link ]

[Night Stalker]

This is comletely [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] but ever since seeing this thread, I have not been able to get the Human League song "People are People" out of me head.