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Old 01-07-2010, 09:01 AM   #341
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That does sound like a tempting offer, let me confer with myself about it! I will try a bit more on my own, perhaps, though. (I am not sure whether I should play your designs first, or finish my own before... )
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:14 AM   #342
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Budzo & manikus, thanks for the praise! But I'm a bit puzzled at how you could not notice the character portraits... did you skip character creation? Even though it doesn't matter all that much who your characters are, you surely can't play the game without one.... I begin to fear I forgot to delete my test characters and you took them for premade ones? Heh.
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Old 01-07-2010, 09:46 AM   #343
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You fear right, Olivier... I also used Brother Kleitus, Nibblefingers & Co. for playtesting, at least for the first complete walkthrough.

BTW, I agree with Budzo and manikus concerning the portrait selection.
I think one of the striking features of your design is the presentation aspect, one other is the story telling (to the degree it was possible in a shot design). More concerning this in the reiview...
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:11 AM   #344
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Ah, silly me. Actually, those WERE pre-made characters. I remember now that I made them in order not to frustrate players because spending a lot of time with character creation isn't rewarded in the mod. Duh. Seems my memory was better then than now.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:18 AM   #345
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I at least was happy that I did not have to create characters - in this case. As you mentioned, I would probably think different in case the adventure was a long one, and if I knew something about the story before playing, so that there would be a tactical aspect already in character designing.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:38 AM   #346
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Since you and Budzo put some effort into creating/altering graphics, I can give a mark for graphics (otherwise, I would have given a zero... ). That's why I asked. I am not totally sure, though, whether modifying is part of the "graphics" category or "presentation". Probably both...
Which is kind of ironic - since you came up with the categories.

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Still, we should not distract Uatu from his own design.
That's why I offered to send him the info, instead of just sending it. I don't want to distract from any kind of workflow that he may have going on.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:44 AM   #347
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Budzo & manikus, thanks for the praise! But I'm a bit puzzled at how you could not notice the character portraits... did you skip character creation? Even though it doesn't matter all that much who your characters are, you surely can't play the game without one.... I begin to fear I forgot to delete my test characters and you took them for premade ones? Heh.
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Ah, silly me. Actually, those WERE pre-made characters. I remember now that I made them in order not to frustrate players because spending a lot of time with character creation isn't rewarded in the mod. Duh. Seems my memory was better then than now.
I used the premade as well. I didn't have the same concerns about character creation that Dinonykos did, but since Budzo, Dinonykos and I all had included characters that had to be used, I figured I'd just use your characters, too.
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Old 01-07-2010, 10:56 AM   #348
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Which is kind of ironic - since you came up with the categories.
Yep, pure irony.
I added the "presentation" category to give the possibility to valuate the process of looking for arts, sounds, and perhaps changing the default viewport settings of DC. It's an art of itself, and should be praised if well done. I think Budzo and especially Olivier did very well in their entries concerning this aspect.
I am still not sure if changing arts (e.g. changing the colour of a wall made by another artist) is part of this category...
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:02 AM   #349
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Yep, pure irony.
I added the "presentation" category to give the possibility to valuate the process of looking for arts, sounds, and perhaps changing the default viewport settings of DC. It's an art of itself, and should be praised if well done. I think Budzo and especially Olivier did very well in their entries concerning this aspect.
I am still not sure if changing arts (e.g. changing the colour of a wall made by another artist) is part of this category...
I considered how well the wall fit in with the design and other walls as the presentation aspect and color changes (for example) as part of the graphics category.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:07 AM   #350
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Okay, hereby we agree on this.

I will handle it the same way then in my reviews.
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