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Xen · 03-01-2003, 10:56 AM

Hey !

I'm still wondering about late dual trick ?

Is it really possible to wait at level 20 and not level up until you gain enough XP to exceed your primary class and then dual ?

I tried it with Sk and it didn't work. I have 0 XP when I dual.

That was Dundee's hint - how can I make it work ?

Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img] ,Xen

tower · 03-01-2003, 01:04 PM

What about the dual: i don't understand exactly- create Wiz Slayer, wait until he is level 20 and then dual??
Does Tactics work with Tdd+Ascension+the 2 reigns???(RoV, FR)

daan · 03-01-2003, 01:39 PM

What Dundee mean is ( took me awhile too, quite brilliant,.. but hey, mention Dundee and tell me something new

):

You get to level 20 as a wizard slayer. You continue being a wizard slayer, it's just that you dont level up. Even if you get enough XP to get to level 21, you do *not* level-up.

You keep doing this untill you gather so much XP .. that you'd be a level 21 thief ( If you were one ) ..

Now you dual to a thief...

Now you lvl up .. al that XP you have stored, but never "put in any levels" so to speak is now redirected to your thief. You're basically giving the thief all the XP your wizard slayer earned after level 20.

And because it's more than enough to go beyond level 20, you're in bussines immediatly [img]smile.gif[/img]

smartsmartsmart

EDIT: Just post again if you still dont understand, I'll try to explain better. The explanation above might be a little Chaotic, sorry [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

[ 03-01-2003, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: daan ]

Xen · 03-01-2003, 01:59 PM

Still don`t understand.Explain please.
Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img]
Xen

Alson · 03-01-2003, 02:17 PM

Daan, i'm quite sure that this way doesn't actually work. I tried it once or twice, and never got it to work. My impression is that Dundee is refering to the Quest-XP-Garnering tactic.

I won't go into specifics -- it should be obvious enough now. [img]smile.gif[/img]

andrewas · 03-01-2003, 02:20 PM

Dont hit the level up button until your XP is sufficient to take you to a lvl20 theif in one go. Then hit the dual class button, and jump to wiz slayer 20/ theif 21 in one go. That seems to be the theory at least.

Is this tried-and tested, or just a thoeretical excercise?

Alson · 03-01-2003, 02:29 PM

Didn't work for me...

daan · 03-01-2003, 02:29 PM

Nope, sorry Alson ... not quite catching on yet [img]smile.gif[/img]

Are you referring to the tactic where you talk to an NPC that gives quest-experience multiple times ? ( f.e. Tanner, big oak spirit Suldanesselar )
or not ?

If so .. I caught on to you, but I'm not quite catching Dundee's way of phrasing it. ( that way you wont stay as a 20th lvl wizard-slayer untill you catch up )

Enlighten me and stop making me look stupid with things like "it should be obvious enough now"

Alson · 03-01-2003, 02:37 PM

LOL! Sorry 'bout that...

But i'm a sucker for riddles. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I wasn't actually thinking about this -- and i don't consider it a legitimate tactic, too. It's exploiting a race condition (= computer science term). I was, however, thinking of plain, not bugged NPC which gives you Quest XP.

Until you dual, do all quests, but do not talk to the people who gave you them. Now, dual to a Thief. Go on a wild trip to the Umar Hills, Trademeet, Windspear, [ insert big quest with mucho quest XP here ], and garner your rightfully owned XP!

daan · 03-01-2003, 02:41 PM

LoL, you sneeky bastard .. but be that as it may,.. it doesnt quite correspond with the way Dundee phrased it, does it ?
I mean .. doing it your way .. would mean you do not stay as a wizard slayer, but dual to a thief and start collecting quest-XP.
So what's Dundee up to ?

03-01-2003, 01:39 PM	#23
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	What Dundee mean is ( took me awhile too, quite brilliant,.. but hey, mention Dundee and tell me something new ): You get to level 20 as a wizard slayer. You continue being a wizard slayer, it's just that you dont level up. Even if you get enough XP to get to level 21, you do not level-up. You keep doing this untill you gather so much XP .. that you'd be a level 21 thief ( If you were one ) .. Now you dual to a thief... Now you lvl up .. al that XP you have stored, but never "put in any levels" so to speak is now redirected to your thief. You're basically giving the thief all the XP your wizard slayer earned after level 20. And because it's more than enough to go beyond level 20, you're in bussines immediatly [img]smile.gif[/img] smartsmartsmart EDIT: Just post again if you still dont understand, I'll try to explain better. The explanation above might be a little Chaotic, sorry [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img] [ 03-01-2003, 01:40 PM: Message edited by: daan ] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

03-01-2003, 02:17 PM	#25
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Daan, i'm quite sure that this way doesn't actually work. I tried it once or twice, and never got it to work. My impression is that Dundee is refering to the Quest-XP-Garnering tactic. I won't go into specifics -- it should be obvious enough now. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

03-01-2003, 02:20 PM	#26
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 43 Posts: 4,774	Dont hit the level up button until your XP is sufficient to take you to a lvl20 theif in one go. Then hit the dual class button, and jump to wiz slayer 20/ theif 21 in one go. That seems to be the theory at least. Is this tried-and tested, or just a thoeretical excercise? __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

03-01-2003, 02:29 PM	#27
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Didn't work for me... __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

03-01-2003, 02:29 PM	#28
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	Nope, sorry Alson ... not quite catching on yet [img]smile.gif[/img] Are you referring to the tactic where you talk to an NPC that gives quest-experience multiple times ? ( f.e. Tanner, big oak spirit Suldanesselar ) or not ? If so .. I caught on to you, but I'm not quite catching Dundee's way of phrasing it. ( that way you wont stay as a 20th lvl wizard-slayer untill you catch up ) Enlighten me and stop making me look stupid with things like "it should be obvious enough now" __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

03-01-2003, 10:56 AM	#21
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Hey ! I'm still wondering about late dual trick ? Is it really possible to wait at level 20 and not level up until you gain enough XP to exceed your primary class and then dual ? I tried it with Sk and it didn't work. I have 0 XP when I dual. That was Dundee's hint - how can I make it work ? Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img] ,Xen

03-01-2003, 01:04 PM	#22
tower The Magister Join Date: February 12, 2003 Location: Romania, district Buzau, city Buzau Age: 39 Posts: 127	What about the dual: i don't understand exactly- create Wiz Slayer, wait until he is level 20 and then dual?? Does Tactics work with Tdd+Ascension+the 2 reigns???(RoV, FR)

03-01-2003, 01:59 PM	#24
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Still don`t understand.Explain please. Cheers [img]smile.gif[/img] Xen

03-01-2003, 02:37 PM	#29
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	LOL! Sorry 'bout that... But i'm a sucker for riddles. [img]smile.gif[/img] I wasn't actually thinking about this -- and i don't consider it a legitimate tactic, too. It's exploiting a race condition (= computer science term). I was, however, thinking of plain, not bugged NPC which gives you Quest XP. Until you dual, do all quests, but do not talk to the people who gave you them. Now, dual to a Thief. Go on a wild trip to the Umar Hills, Trademeet, Windspear, [ insert big quest with mucho quest XP here ], and garner your rightfully owned XP! __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

03-01-2003, 02:41 PM	#30
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	LoL, you sneeky bastard .. but be that as it may,.. it doesnt quite correspond with the way Dundee phrased it, does it ? I mean .. doing it your way .. would mean you do not stay as a wizard slayer, but dual to a thief and start collecting quest-XP. So what's Dundee up to ? __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

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