Good cloak instead of Cloak of Mirroring. - Page 3

Galadria1 · 01-19-2002, 03:26 PM

Memnoch, enlighten me. How was the new cloak different than the old. I never use the damned thing, hate the optical effect. Plus, is it different in SoA if you have ToB installed?

Glorfindel · 01-19-2002, 07:21 PM

Well in SoA the cloak reflects all damaging spells back towards the caster, and the graphic is a little blue/white sparkling circle around the feet of the char wearing it, in ToB though it is changed to just absorbing the spells and is the graphic of spell trap

Memnoch · 01-20-2002, 09:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Galadria1:
Memnoch, enlighten me. How was the new cloak different than the old. I never use the damned thing, hate the optical effect. Plus, is it different in SoA if you have ToB installed?

The old effect was a Spell Deflection effect and graphic (a shining disk around the feet of the character), which most players thought was extremely overpowered (you could walk through a beholder lair and they'd all kill themselves without you lifting a finger).

The new effect is a Spell Trap effect that absorbs magical damage rather than deflects it. It's better balanced, but unfortunately comes with the Spell Trap graphic (which is a glowing webbed sphere which considerably obscures the character). This is the case as long as you have ToB installed - whether or not you are in SoA or ToB.

Galadria1 · 01-20-2002, 01:07 PM

Yay, my stepson did it. I'm going to play the game and see how it works. Thanks, Memnoch.

SixOfSpades · 01-20-2002, 02:57 PM

Dude, I don't know what you're talking about, but I have the ToB version of the Cloak, and it's an insanely overpowered item as it is. I'm in the Underdark now, and my 14th-level Undead Hunter, with Saving Throws of 0 or lower and the Cloak of Mirroring, just waltzed through that Beholder hive (see Memnoch's last post) BY HERSELF. She got Slowed a lot, but the only thing that gave me ANY difficulty at all was the Elder Orb who casts Imprisonment (had to have the rest of the party come & helf kill him). Talk about ridiculous. I had her awaken that Lich and then just stand there, laughing, while the Lich exhausted her spells and tried to fight hand-to-hand. If immunity like that isn't enough for you, I don't know what would be.

toriuxik · 01-21-2002, 01:45 PM

Whups! I keep forgetting to mention my favorite cloak... sewer cloak. +1 ac and shapechanging? WOW! This is almost a must have for soloing... Well, not really, but its nice if you are soloing with a fighter class...

Of course, the bug in which my berserker with Impaler was stabing while in jelly form... lol, it was funny having the blob of mustard jelly doing fair damage to the Adamantite golem while IT got a turn of doing no damage... heh heh heh... Erm, the bug is not a good thing though.

I like all the forms in the cloak though.

Lord Ludtke · 01-21-2002, 02:47 PM

If you are dual wielding, there is nothing better then monotelo's cloak that cespenar puts together for you. Even my assassin is hitting everything.

toriuxik · 01-21-2002, 06:48 PM

Are you kidding!? wow... I found that my 5 attack wonder lacked a reasonable THACO with just about everything... Of course, the weapons weren't very highly enchanted, but oh well.

Whats your THACO btw?

Dundee Slaytern · 01-22-2002, 01:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Memnoch:
The old effect was a Spell Deflection effect and graphic (a shining disk around the feet of the character),
~snip~

Hate to nitpick, but I think you meant Spell Turning. Spell Deflection's graphic is the white wiffle ball too.

Glorfindel · 01-22-2002, 01:47 AM

Yep... thats definately nitpicky...... doe sne1 know y they changed the spell graphic????? I can understand y they changed the actual item.... but I like 2 b able to c my characters animation.... So that really annoyed me when I installed ToB 4 the 1st time..

That was probably the worst thing about ToB

01-19-2002, 03:26 PM	#21
Galadria1 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 11, 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 369	Memnoch, enlighten me. How was the new cloak different than the old. I never use the damned thing, hate the optical effect. Plus, is it different in SoA if you have ToB installed? __________________ Lady Galadria, a proud Cavalier of Keldorn\'s Order; Oh So Simple Marshmallow Woman of the ORT. Member, HADB<br /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" -Saki<br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

01-20-2002, 09:22 AM	#23
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	quote: Originally posted by Galadria1: Memnoch, enlighten me. How was the new cloak different than the old. I never use the damned thing, hate the optical effect. Plus, is it different in SoA if you have ToB installed? The old effect was a Spell Deflection effect and graphic (a shining disk around the feet of the character), which most players thought was extremely overpowered (you could walk through a beholder lair and they'd all kill themselves without you lifting a finger). The new effect is a Spell Trap effect that absorbs magical damage rather than deflects it. It's better balanced, but unfortunately comes with the Spell Trap graphic (which is a glowing webbed sphere which considerably obscures the character). This is the case as long as you have ToB installed - whether or not you are in SoA or ToB. __________________

01-20-2002, 01:07 PM	#24
Galadria1 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 11, 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 369	Yay, my stepson did it. I'm going to play the game and see how it works. Thanks, Memnoch. __________________ Lady Galadria, a proud Cavalier of Keldorn\'s Order; Oh So Simple Marshmallow Woman of the ORT. Member, HADB<br /><br />\"Romance at short notice was her specialty.\" -Saki<br />Founder of the IW Branch of the Anti-Anomen Society

01-20-2002, 02:57 PM	#25
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	Dude, I don't know what you're talking about, but I have the ToB version of the Cloak, and it's an insanely overpowered item as it is. I'm in the Underdark now, and my 14th-level Undead Hunter, with Saving Throws of 0 or lower and the Cloak of Mirroring, just waltzed through that Beholder hive (see Memnoch's last post) BY HERSELF. She got Slowed a lot, but the only thing that gave me ANY difficulty at all was the Elder Orb who casts Imprisonment (had to have the rest of the party come & helf kill him). Talk about ridiculous. I had her awaken that Lich and then just stand there, laughing, while the Lich exhausted her spells and tried to fight hand-to-hand. If immunity like that isn't enough for you, I don't know what would be. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

01-21-2002, 02:47 PM	#27
Lord Ludtke Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 21, 2001 Location: canada Posts: 319	If you are dual wielding, there is nothing better then monotelo's cloak that cespenar puts together for you. Even my assassin is hitting everything. __________________ Do not pray for an easy life.<br />Pray for the strength to endure <br />a tough one.<p>:warrior1:

01-19-2002, 07:21 PM	#22
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 3,337	Well in SoA the cloak reflects all damaging spells back towards the caster, and the graphic is a little blue/white sparkling circle around the feet of the char wearing it, in ToB though it is changed to just absorbing the spells and is the graphic of spell trap

01-21-2002, 01:45 PM	#26
toriuxik Banned Smartass Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Who cares Posts: 216	Whups! I keep forgetting to mention my favorite cloak... sewer cloak. +1 ac and shapechanging? WOW! This is almost a must have for soloing... Well, not really, but its nice if you are soloing with a fighter class... Of course, the bug in which my berserker with Impaler was stabing while in jelly form... lol, it was funny having the blob of mustard jelly doing fair damage to the Adamantite golem while IT got a turn of doing no damage... heh heh heh... Erm, the bug is not a good thing though. I like all the forms in the cloak though.

01-21-2002, 06:48 PM	#28
toriuxik Banned Smartass Join Date: November 26, 2001 Location: Who cares Posts: 216	Are you kidding!? wow... I found that my 5 attack wonder lacked a reasonable THACO with just about everything... Of course, the weapons weren't very highly enchanted, but oh well. Whats your THACO btw?

01-22-2002, 01:44 AM	#29
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Memnoch: The old effect was a Spell Deflection effect and graphic (a shining disk around the feet of the character), ~snip~ Hate to nitpick, but I think you meant Spell Turning. Spell Deflection's graphic is the white wiffle ball too.

01-22-2002, 01:47 AM	#30
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 3,337	Yep... thats definately nitpicky...... doe sne1 know y they changed the spell graphic????? I can understand y they changed the actual item.... but I like 2 b able to c my characters animation.... So that really annoyed me when I installed ToB 4 the 1st time.. That was probably the worst thing about ToB

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