OMGods !! Obama...

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior I just told you how he dishonored her.

you gave an opinion, opinions are like rear ends everybody has'em and they usually need to be wiped every once in a while.

Which word did you not understand in the following statement I made. "Give facts not opinion", Please let me know and I'll try to rephrase it so you do understand it.

[SpiritWarrior]

I think it's you who isn't understanding. What or who do you want facts about?

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior I think it's you who isn't understanding. What or who do you want facts about?

ROTFLMAO in this case any facts would do.

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by John D Harris ROTFLMAO in this case any facts would do.

So let me get this straight, you want "any facts" because you don't like opinions, even though you posted a video of Glenn spouting his opinion. But, you like that opinion, because, in your opinion, it is a good opinion but my opinion is, in your opinion, not a good opinion.

Amirite?

[Cerek]

Here are some facts for consideration.

1) British judge, Mr. Justice Burton, ruled that An Inconvenient Truth contained 9 factual errors. He ruled the film could be shown in British schools, but only if accompanied by the disclaimer/warning that the film was a partisan presentation that only presented one side of the story.

2) Some blog sites and the SPPI put the actual number of errors in the film closer to 35. (some interesting comments after this particular list. Post #3 from "JW" slams the blogger for "counting Hurricane Katrina twice and just changing the spelling". Only thing is, JW didn't realize Gore (and the blogger) were referring to two separate hurricanes; Katrina that hit New Orleans and Catarina that hit Brazil)

3) Al Gore has conceded in the past that ecologist often resort to using "alarmist tactics" to increase awareness about global climate threats. Mr. Justice Burton concurred when he claimed 9 errors in the film were "in the context of alarmism and exaggeration". At least Gore didn't lie about using these tactics.

4) Al Gore went around the globe urging everyone to lower the carbon footprint, while his own mansion in TN consumed approximately 12 times the energy of average households in TN. Gore's staff members quickly replied that his residence wasn't "average" since he and Tipper both used the home as office space for their personal endeavors and they "offset" their carbon footprint by purchasing some of their energy from "green sources". That may be well and good, but the fact is that Al Gore did NOT begin making green renovations to his home until AFTER the report of his energy consumption became public.

5) Meanwhile, a certain ranch house in Texas was already using every green technology available at the time.

6) Al Gore says that, if you can't reduce your energy consumption (like he and Tipper), then you can purchase "carbon offsets" to reduce your carbon footprint. In other words, you buy an excuse to use extra energy. Guess who is the silent majority owner of the company selling the "carbon offsets"? If you said "Al Gore", you may go to the head of the class.

So, Al Gore was using excessive amounts of energy for his personal mansion (and office) while urging other Americans to reduce their energy use, but he justifies his excess consumption by using the house as an office and buying a permission slip from himself to offset the extra consumption. :uhoh2:

These are some of the facts regarding Al Gore. You're welcome to give your respect to a man like that if you wish. I, on the other hand, cannot.

[SpiritWarrior]

Oh, there you are. Back to Al Gore again I see. Damn, I am still waiting on John D's answer concerning our Glenn Beck! No matter, I can keep up just fine. *puts on tinfoil hat*

My acute memory yet again tells me we went through all of these "facts" before, back on the CE forums a year or so ago. Don't you recall..? That's how I know you never saw the movie. You are welcome to pretend it was never discussed but I, on the other hand, cannot.

[Chewbacca]

I hate discussing Al Gore when the real topic should be climate change and what humans are doing about it. It's like talking about coal when there is diamonds to be had.

[Arvon]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca I hate discussing Al Gore when the real topic should be climate change and what humans are doing about it. It's like talking about coal when there is diamonds to be had.

Climate change has been goin on a few billion years before man and will go long after man is gone. Any good Historical Geology text will show that.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Arvon Climate change has been goin on a few billion years before man and will go long after man is gone. Any good Historical Geology text will show that.

Well, yes, the Earth is constantly renewing and changing itself. Such beauty as I saw it today on our family Autumn hike. The changing tree colors can only be described as a splendor of nature made for eyes.

As well, Last evening the Science Channel had a beautiful documentry about plate tectonics and what's happening near the horn of Africa. An ocean being born, Earth changing before our eyes, ect. Good stuff.

But it's not the cycles of eons and eras we have concern for, clearly it is the mere decades and centuries ahead. It's also not just the Earth going on her merry way, but our human creations which are our own responsibility.

Indeed remaining educated and intelligent, that is key, but not just for having some witty facts available for disposal or debate. Having accurate knowledge about the enviroment is the only way to properly apply responsibility for our own actions and consequences.

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior So let me get this straight, you want "any facts" because you don't like opinions, even though you posted a video of Glenn spouting his opinion. But, you like that opinion, because, in your opinion, it is a good opinion but my opinion is, in your opinion, not a good opinion. Amirite?

Not even close the only Opinion given by Glen Beck in the entire video consists of one sentence, " It is dispicable that she died without winning the nobel peace prize, but if you asked Irenea...." It comes in the last 15 seconds of the video. Now you wrote a lot of stuff about tactics then back them up with opinions on what those tactics meant. I at least backed up, the facts in the video with another sourse, and warned those who couldn't handle the truth given by Glen Beck. You've spouted nothing but drivel. I didn't say the movie wasn't worthy of a Nobel Prize, just not the PEACE PRIZE. I even sugested maybe the NOBEL SCIENCE PRIZE... but there could be a problem there since for the sceine prize the facts got to be there... and well Cerek has done a great job showing it would fail. But hey if'n you want to hang on to some movie being equal to saving human lives, be my guest.... and we conservative Repunlicans are mean people.... LMAO thanks Spirit you make it so easy....