09-12-2001, 03:14 PM | #21 | ||
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I would not worry about it. This is a strong nation and I doubt that our open-door policy to foreigners will be slammed shut. Being European, I seriously doubt that you will be scrutinized for your desire to study in this country. Quote:
Secondly, I fail to see where Americans value their own lives over other people's in this world. Who is most willing to go into other countries and lend a hand against terrorism attacks world-wide? I don't know of any one country that can be pinpointed as the first one in line, but America does not turn a blind eye to the suffering of others through terrorism. Before the treaties preventing the execution of terrorists, was America not more than willing to go in armed and rid the world of such fear-mongers as terrorists? The Red-Cross is active on an international level when it comes to supplying needed medical attention, blood, food, and water to people all over the world who suffer from natural and terrorist based tragedies as well as in the aid of war-torn communities. This American based organization has spread the word world-wide that we are all worthy of life. Yes, we love our families and neighbors a tad more than we (are able to through lack of personal contact) love a total stranger across the ocean but that does not mean we don't care, that we hold our existence above theirs as being more important because we are "Americans". If we did, we'd be no better than those who live to terrorize the rest of the world! Just my opinion. ------------------ You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! [This message has been edited by Moni (edited 09-12-2001).] |
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09-12-2001, 03:14 PM | #22 | |
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09-12-2001, 03:21 PM | #23 | |
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This may be a different kind of war, but war it is. And innocent civilians are innocent civilians, only a tiny minority of the german people were Nazi's you know. Also, might i remind you that some of the things you did to civies in 'nam werent to pretty either, so dont go accusing the Soviets. [This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 09-12-2001).] [This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 09-12-2001).] [This message has been edited by Dreamer128 (edited 09-12-2001).] |
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09-12-2001, 03:26 PM | #24 | |
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I was wondering how long it would be until somebody tried to ban me for my sometimes ...unpopular points of view, as I have gotten into heated arguments a lot lately. Glad to know that I'm not alone in the world. Thank you again *more hugs* And if I ever go into politics, I'll be certain to inform you all! |
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09-12-2001, 03:30 PM | #25 | |
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09-12-2001, 03:40 PM | #26 | |
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Since Vietnam and the occasion on which 17 GIs got killed and 51 were injured in a shoot out in a Somalian market the US has not been 'most willing to go into other countries and lend a hand against terrorism attacks world-wide.' The US has however been more than willing to launch cruise missiles against terrorist targets and quite rightly so many people would say. There is a important difference between those two policies. One endangers the lives of servicemen the other does not. The US has been willing to act in a peacekeeping capacity and invade other countries to maintain the peace (and oil supplies) but there is a difference between that and anti-terrorist operations. In anti terrorist operations your soldiers are a target every day and you will lose soldiers regularly-examples are Northern Ireland, Israeli occupation of the West Bank, Spain etc etc The US government has repeatedly shown that the protection of its servicemen is of prime importance-even below the importance of retailiation in some cases. |
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09-12-2001, 03:46 PM | #27 | |
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YES, this hit us all very hard here in the US, but I also think it's a valid point that many of us would be equally outraged if this happened someplace else. We are not all alike, and I don't for one minute think I'm speaking for everyone, but I know that I do speak for many. Tragedies of this magnitude are horrendous ANYWHERE. Cloudy ------------------ Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan Storm-Queen Raven's Cloud StormCloud of the Black Knight: Heart Mind Soul Forever "To sleep, perchance to dream..." |
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09-12-2001, 03:49 PM | #28 | |
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If only you were right on that one ! But like with most things that are just too good to be true this one isn't true either: to my distress I have to inform you that historic research has shown that the Nazi regime always had the backing of a very large portion of the German population for all the time from 1933 through 1945. ------------------ So long ! R³ - proud to be the official spokesman for the most noble Lady Bilqis, Desert Rose of Ironworks Btw, the cow is queuing in the slaughterhouse right now ! |
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