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Old 12-18-2002, 10:54 AM   #11
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I have soloed a bard through vanilla Baldur's Gate. One of my better solos.

Start off using bows or crossbows, sword and shield for some encounters, and then finally use that nice +2 throwing axe and a shield.

Tactics are easy. In the beginning, run from everything. Kill Silky with some arrows of biting. Do non violent quests in Beregost. Once you can cast spells, get Grease ASAP. Use Grease to hose the area, shoot shoot shoot. Later, use Webs, and Stinking Clouds. Get invisibility as soon as you can.

Once you get your hands on a wand of monster summoning, summon a few, go invisible, and sing your lungs out! Critters backed with Bard song are pretty tough. Nobody touches you (Mostly) while invisible. You can soar through a good bit of the game with ease.

Some fights, you can't win. So, you go invisible and avoid them all together. Do what Bards do best. Save your own skin and be a coward. My Bard was a total chicken.

His stats were outstanding.

18 Str
18 Dex
15 Con
14 Int
13 Wis
18 Chr

After all the books he was amazing, 19/19/16/15/15/19. Yes, it took a while to roll. He moved on to BGII and became a Blade.

The worst part of the game involves keeping a certian somebody alive.
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Old 12-19-2002, 12:26 PM   #12
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Well, thanks, Butterfingers. Welcome at IronWorks Forums.

I took a proficiency point in Bow, but went for Slings later 'cos I wanted that +1AC from Buckler. Sad. And there is only three kinds of pebbles.

I didn't know bard can backstab! Well, neither he can hide in shadows, nor the multiplier is listed anywhere (IIRC). But once he can cast Invisibility, he can pretty much kill Flesh Golems in one hit (with Dagger of Venom).

I notice that you read only two Books of Wisdom. Is it a typo or you don't have TotSC?

I intend not to powergame, so my stats are 14/19/16/13/11/17 (found books of Dex, Wis and Cha).

How do you cope with not being able of wearing armor?
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Old 12-19-2002, 02:57 PM   #13
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Armor.

Bracers, rings, cloaks, shield, spells, can get AC down to -4 IIRC. For some parts, forget spells for a while and wear chainmail.
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Old 12-19-2002, 10:31 PM   #14
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Again I have to show my basic ignorance of the gaming language...what does IIRC mean?
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Old 12-20-2002, 02:19 PM   #15
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If I Recall Correctly.
Check this url for acronyms.
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:19 PM   #16
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Anyone who can make it through the game as a solo Bard has my respect and going solo does make you find some creative tactical ideas, as shown from this thread.
As pointed out a Bard is a bit weak in the AC department, so any magic enhancements are welcome - my solo character made a lot of use of Mirror Image, especially for avoiding trap damage, also Blur is pretty good too. The other common problem for solo characters is being out-numbered by powerful enemies. While summoning a few weak monsters can help, what you really need to do to turn the odds, is to use Charm, Chaos, Confusion, etc so that the bad guys are fighting amongst themselves. If all else fails, then there is usually the option to go invisible and walk right past the problem - after all you hardly need the experience and your inventory is probably full - so why are you fighting them in the first place?
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Old 12-23-2002, 07:07 PM   #17
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It is to the last comment that you really need to address the issue of soloing with a bard. As Midget Gems says, you don't need to defeat everybody, and from a sense of roleplay, perhaps you shouldn't even try.

Thieves have it bad (single class anyway) in terms of proficiencies and equipment. Bards can have a wider selection of weapons and armour; they can even use composite bows which is a huge advantage on its own. Spells can make up for the shortfall in terms of actual thiefly skills, so there isn't too big a problem by being without them. Thieves have no such access to these spells.

As a solo thief you fight alone. As a solo bard you do not have to.

Fighting is inevitable in games such as these - even if only to complete a quest and remove an end-of-level bad guy. For the most part thieves and bards should avoid conflict. Afterall, if they don't, shouldn't we have gone for a fighter in the first place?
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Old 12-23-2002, 08:07 PM   #18
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I tried soloing a thief. It was TOUGH. Worse then the Bard. Solo Cleric fell apart. Solo Ranger/Cleric did pretty darn good.

But the Bard was probably the most fun. It was challenging in some parts, mind numbingly easy in others, and fiendishly HARD in some parts. Not having ToSC probably did not help much. Agie's Scorcher makes short work of the Firewine Bridge dungeon, fill up a hallway with a long line of kobolds and fire away.

The enchanted throwing axe is pretty much the uber weapon for a solo Bard, tis a pity you get it so late in the game.
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Old 12-23-2002, 11:20 PM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by Butterfingers:
The enchanted throwing axe is pretty much the uber weapon for a solo Bard, tis a pity you get it so late in the game.
On the spoiler side...don't read the rest if you don't want to get spoiled.
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Makes me wonder if providing a weapon like that via CLUA would be feasible in solo situations. Something like a "You killed Daerevorn and flooded the mines! You spoke to Elminster in Baldur's Gate, and a weapon magically appears!"
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Old 12-24-2002, 08:46 AM   #20
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Do Bards ever get high enough to cast haste without the benefit of removing the xp cap????Another question would be, "Does the 'Bard Song' affect summoned monsters?" If the answer to both of these questions is yes then it seems to me that a Bard with a wand of monster summoning who summons monsters, then hastes them, then hides in the shadows and sings the song over and over would result in a not too bad fighting force...Is this correct or do I have Bards all wrong?
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