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Old 12-04-2003, 06:21 PM   #11
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Aerial Servants, i love them


But for pure power gaming, I'd say Planetar's
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Old 12-04-2003, 06:25 PM   #12
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planetar-improve hasted, globe of blades, free action...
deva...ditto, ditto...
clay golem from the book...invulnerable to any weapon but blunt...
g elemental summons.
g bearweres from ease of use mod..
skeleton warriors, hasted, mass invisible...
mordy swords, strength spell (native strength of 15) and improve hasted...
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Old 12-04-2003, 07:46 PM   #13
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planetar-improve hasted, globe of blades, free action...
deva...ditto, ditto...
clay golem from the book...invulnerable to any weapon but blunt...
g elemental summons.
g bearweres from ease of use mod..
skeleton warriors, hasted, mass invisible...
mordy swords, strength spell (native strength of 15) and improve hasted...
You're pretty big on summons . I guess I'd use summons more if I was a solo spell caster (no fighter)...but I'm not, so there [img]tongue.gif[/img] .
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Old 12-04-2003, 08:54 PM   #14
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planetar-improve hasted, globe of blades, free action...
deva...ditto, ditto...
clay golem from the book...invulnerable to any weapon but blunt...
g elemental summons.
g bearweres from ease of use mod..
skeleton warriors, hasted, mass invisible...
mordy swords, strength spell (native strength of 15) and improve hasted...
You're pretty big on summons . I guess I'd use summons more if I was a solo spell caster (no fighter)...but I'm not, so there [img]tongue.gif[/img] . [/QUOTE]love summons...

in fact, any summon can become uber summons, simply by a few useful spells...

this is in fact the basis for a selection of sorceror spells...

animate dead
mordy swords
planetar

haste
mass invisible
improved haste
spirit armor
strength spell (mordy swords have low strengh)

death spell (against enemy summons)

by applying improved haste, and mass invisible on skeleton warriors, they tend to chew up a cluster of generic mindflayers like candy...improve haste and haste a mordy sword, and it will move faster than anything in the game...with strength spell it gets major bonuses in attacking, chewing thru almost anything without scripted death spell...

abd of course there is the wondercheese with fighting summons...

the guard button super cheese...
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Old 12-04-2003, 09:01 PM   #15
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planetar-improve hasted, globe of blades, free action...
deva...ditto, ditto...
clay golem from the book...invulnerable to any weapon but blunt...
g elemental summons.
g bearweres from ease of use mod..
skeleton warriors, hasted, mass invisible...
mordy swords, strength spell (native strength of 15) and improve hasted...
You're pretty big on summons . I guess I'd use summons more if I was a solo spell caster (no fighter)...but I'm not, so there [img]tongue.gif[/img] . [/QUOTE]love summons...

in fact, any summon can become uber summons, simply by a few useful spells...

this is in fact the basis for a selection of sorceror spells...

animate dead
mordy swords
planetar

haste
mass invisible
improved haste
spirit armor
strength spell (mordy swords have low strengh)

death spell (against enemy summons)

by applying improved haste, and mass invisible on skeleton warriors, they tend to chew up a cluster of generic mindflayers like candy...improve haste and haste a mordy sword, and it will move faster than anything in the game...with strength spell it gets major bonuses in attacking, chewing thru almost anything without scripted death spell...

abd of course there is the wondercheese with fighting summons...

the guard button super cheese...
[/QUOTE]In all my time of playing the BG series, I've never used the gaurd button. Do any of you guys really use this?
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:03 PM   #16
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In all my time of playing the BG series, I've never used the gaurd button. Do any of you guys really use this?
And you quoted three posts just for this sentence? [img]graemlins/1dizzy.gif[/img]

Guard really doesn't work in ANY Black Isle series. You're better off using a Blade's Defensive Spin, and it would have been super if that was the guard button's original intent.
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Old 12-04-2003, 10:36 PM   #17
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I would love to hear more about the origin of Mordenkainen´s sword, how BioWare invented its name and such. It sounds very Finnish.

That, Skeletons and Fire Elemental are my fave summons.
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Old 12-04-2003, 11:42 PM   #18
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I would love to hear more about the origin of Mordenkainen´s sword, how BioWare invented its name and such. It sounds very Finnish.
Bioware didn't invent it. Nor did they invent Otiluke, Melf, etc. They are all wizards from the Greyhawk campaign world. Since that was the first campaign world, when the players who played in that first campaign in that setting long ago came up with spells, they were added into the list, and eventually made their way into later books. Thus Melf's Acid Arrow, Mordy's swords, Otiluke's Resilient Sphere, etc.
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Old 12-05-2003, 01:48 AM   #19
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"In all my time of playing the BG series, I've never used the gaurd button. Do any of you guys really use this?"

stinky cheese alert...you were warned!!!

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Guard Button Super Cheese
Now here is one that is truly fiendish.....certain npcs, like Keldorn and Mazzy, have this button on their screen that resembles a shield... have Keldorn or Mazzy equipped with a ranged weapon, like long bow, then buff up a fighter, like Minsc or Saravok, (who can also do this trick) and send him into a room full of monsters, and close the door behind them...click on the guard button of the support ranged fighter, then click on the meelee fighter sent into the room alone, the ranged fighter is now "guarding" the meelee fighter, but he/she cannot be reached thru the closed door...so the ranged fighter will now FIRE THRU THE WALLS in support of the meelee fighter he/she has been assigned to guard...any enemies that the guarded npc attacks will be shot by the ranged fighter if it is within range of the ranged fighter...
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this is almost tailor made for abuse, like when you get solafein, you can dimention door him into a room full of nasties and guard him with minsc. activate greater deathblow by minsc, and the slaughter is disgusting....long bows are the best weapon for this, since the long bow range is the best in the game....also, and now we just get really evil, you can guard summons like mordenkainen swords, skeleton warriors, invisible stalkers and such...use wizard eye or farsight to keep control of your summons, send them into a room full of mind flayers, have minsc activate greater deathblow, and add up the experience points....any summons capable of attacking is a valid guardable target. now specific examples....remember gorf the squisher who duels mazzy when you get to the copper coronet? when the duel happens, mazzy is stripped of all her good equipment, but use the guard button with minsc or keldorn, and gorf dies fast...this is also good for the druid grove duel, with faldorn....making the guarded npc, invulnerable to attack, using protection from magic weapons and mislead, just adds to the fun....and you knew i love cheating on duels of honor.
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