A way to save Nizidramanii'yt? [full-game spoilers]

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by ocellis: Why would one want to avoid a fight with a *dragon*? The very essence of beeing an hero is to fight epic battles isn't it?

I sense a candidate for failing the Trial of Pride.

To be a Hero, is to do right and right the wrong. Epic has nothing to do with it. The people who volunteer in charities? They are heroes too.

[Gangrell]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: quote: Originally posted by ocellis: Why would one want to avoid a fight with a *dragon*? The very essence of beeing an hero is to fight epic battles isn't it?

I sense a candidate for failing the Trial of Pride.

To be a Hero, is to do right and right the wrong. Epic has nothing to do with it. The people who volunteer in charities? They are heroes too. [/QUOTE]I think he's referring to the heat of the moment Dundee, taking down a beast of great magnitude to say you really accomplished something.

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Gangrell: I think he's referring to the heat of the moment Dundee, taking down a beast of great magnitude to say you really accomplished something.

Ah... but to resist the temptation to do so requires greater effort, and is as some will say, a bigger accomplishment. Sureeee... it might not make you famous, but then... most Heroes are unsung ones.

[ocellis]

I admid that i fail the Test of Pride every time X-)
After all i *am* i mighty wizard and with the help of my friends (Korgan,Viconia,Edwin,Haer'Dalis) i know no fear. But i admid that there are several ways to do heoric deeds. Not all of them will secure you a place in the tales of bards, though

[Pirengle]

Originally posted by Assassin: Nope. You can choose a dialogue option which allows you to give up all of your equipment and money for the chalice.

Can somebody give me the exact conversation path? (I could have sworn I tried all the angles.)

Originally posted by Faceman: BTW You don't need to double-cross Garren. You can just save his child and tell Firkraag something like "You got away this time but cross me again and blablablabla" then leave him and never come back.

I was thinking more of paths the PC can take where they can deal with blue-neutral circle dragons without killing them. IIRC, if you're an evil SOB and give Firky the deed, you won't have to fight him. Still can, of course, but don't have to.

Originally posted by ocellis: Why would one want to avoid a fight with a *dragon*? The very essence of beeing an hero is to fight epic battles isn't it?

In the case of Firky, maybe an overemotional (or gullible) neutral PC may be convinced that his or her presence made matters worse, and Firky may use that insecurity to get what he wants.

I have problems killing Nizzy. Yes, black dragons are evil--Lawful Evil. He's sorta charming. (I've often thought of an Edwin romance mod. Hey, let's give Anomen and Kelsey some competition!)