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Old 06-17-2003, 07:47 AM   #11
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Many of the really problematic enemies can be skipped. Kangaxx has a nice ring, but its not essential for a sorc. (I wear the ring of acuity + the ring of wizardry, spell slots are more useful than AC and regeneration). Demogorgon - completely optional quest. That red dragon dosent hold anything a sorceror can really use, and you can complete the quest satisfactorily without taking him down.

In short - pick your fights. And the ones you really have to fight, a spell trigger with three Lower Resistance makes ADHW very dangerous.
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Old 06-17-2003, 07:58 AM   #12
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What, I can not skip Gaxx he is #@&^$@@# my favorite friend. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-17-2003, 08:02 AM   #13
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I plan to kill everyone [img]smile.gif[/img] , so I'm not gonna just skip em. Btw, this is on Insane with Tactics, so if anyone has previous experience with it, tell me what its like...(with a sorcerer)

Anyway, I consider summons to be anything that pops up that I can control. For instance, Project Image, Animate Dead, Mordenkains sword, Mislead. It will be far more in the spirit of traditional wizards you see in books (They dont go around creating duplicates of themselves or summoning up swords, but instead they just... blast everything away... cooler this way I think)

Red Dragon should be easy, I'm quite sure greater malison + finger of death/chromatic orb will kill him no problem. As for Demo-Gorgon... I'm not quite sure, since I've only fought him once (the unimproved version) and this time I have the improved one from Ascension Mod.

So.... can anyone list some stuff about him? Immunities, AC, Hitpoints etc?

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Old 06-17-2003, 08:34 AM   #14
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(unimproved)
Immunities - spellcraft
resistances - all of them - high, excluding physical (low-normal) may be
AC - -16
Hitpoints near 300
can kill your sorc - immediately [img]smile.gif[/img]

This may be out of date info so check him out with ctrl+q
S.o. told me that his MR can be affect by Pierce shield although there is no note in the log (don't cast time stop it is pointless) don't try imprison it wont work. Here is an idea - ctrl+q him and try everything on him to see if he can be damaged, affected.

P.S. MR will prevent greater mali and also finger of death and also the orb.
You'll need to lower his resistance first (90%) and do not forget the dragon just loves to hit you and cast at you so you'll have to cast 6-7 spells without being interrupted !

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Old 06-17-2003, 09:57 AM   #15
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Originally posted by Omicron:
I plan to kill everyone [img]smile.gif[/img] , so I'm not gonna just skip em. Btw, this is on Insane with Tactics, so if anyone has previous experience with it, tell me what its like...(with a sorcerer)

Anyway, I consider summons to be anything that pops up that I can control. For instance, Project Image, Animate Dead, Mordenkains sword, Mislead. It will be far more in the spirit of traditional wizards you see in books (They dont go around creating duplicates of themselves or summoning up swords, but instead they just... blast everything away... cooler this way I think)

Red Dragon should be easy, I'm quite sure greater malison + finger of death/chromatic orb will kill him no problem. As for Demo-Gorgon... I'm not quite sure, since I've only fought him once (the unimproved version) and this time I have the improved one from Ascension Mod.

So.... can anyone list some stuff about him? Immunities, AC, Hitpoints etc?
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i think youll have a blast with improved illyich without any summons [img]smile.gif[/img] . i didnt notice any difference between improved/unimproved demogorgon...more hp? and btw, timestop is not pointless! it may not freeze demogorgon, but it will freeze the other demons(mariliths, balors and other nasty nasties). and since none of the other ninth level spells really affect him, i must ask, why not?
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Old 06-17-2003, 11:58 AM   #16
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I just finish the Dungeon, Improved Illych, insane, with my sorcerer. The non-summon thing didn't affect me here (since you dont get any worthwhile summons before level 10 anyway) and you don't reach level 10 till the end of the dungeon. It wasn't bad, the only thing that gave me a slight headache was the shadowthieves. If you think one's bad on normal, 2 is far more annoying. Good thing Skulltraps make short work of, and they usually died before coming out of invisibility. Reloads happened 1 in 2 encounters, usually because I kill myself with skulltrap (damn you mirror image, never works when u REALLY need it)

Illych and gang were a cinch (wands of paralyzation.. muahah, then after illych, drayds hold person did the trick).

Btw, I heard from some other people that Pierce Magic works on Improved Demogorgon. If thats the case, then unloading my spell book during improved alacrity should do the trick... anyone know anything about this?
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:08 PM   #17
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I'm just assuming you have ToB right? Cause I've never heard of Dragon's Breath in SoA and I'm almost positive Improved Alacrity is ToB.
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:14 PM   #18
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Ok I agree. My mistake. It is not recommendet to use it only when you're with party or summons who are attacking the prince. Ok the time is frozen and so the additional demons and we have one really dangerous prince - so now what (no summons) ?

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Old 06-17-2003, 12:15 PM   #19
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Anyway... another interesting point:

When PC casts spells, it seems soo bland. I mean, when Irenicus casts them, these swirly things (usually attributed to flesh to stone and what not) goes around him. How can WE do it too? I really wish a Mod would allow this. (Make different schools of spells have different swirlies).

It would be soooo cool.
Get yourself a copy from the Infinity Engine Editor Pro @ teambg.net. Goto spell maker. Find a spell with the desired effect. Copy that effect and place it in the spell you want to have that effect. It's tedious to do for all the spells, you'll not get it right the first three times and the result? Nice flashy things

Also, if you dont mind a bit of cheating, (though I actually died a couple of times on insane with all the improved mods installed) make yourself a pair of gloves (yes gloves, cuz there aren't any gloves THAT usefull to a sorc, maybe brac of def 3, but you can add the AC bonus to your newly made glove) that have the effect of Increase Spellcasting Speed when equipped. Result? Improved Alacrity ALL the time. And yes, you read it right: I died a couple of times while wearing an Aura Cleansing glove as a solo sorc. Though not very rewarding, the feeling of near-omnipotence against every tough fiend in the game was kinda nice and cuddly-feeling =)
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Old 06-17-2003, 03:30 PM   #20
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Why do you need this kinf of gloves anyway? Sorcerer is already powerful with normal Improved Alacraty.

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