Dual wield or shield? - Page 2

Assassin · 04-03-2003, 06:41 PM

With a Fighter/Mage/Thief, you could get even better AC by adding in the Amulet of the MAster Harper. And there is the White Dragon Armor, which is -2 AC. Add that in with the Ring of Earth control.

[ 04-03-2003, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: Assassin ]

Dundee Slaytern · 04-03-2003, 10:39 PM

Assuming SoA, and Default SoA only... this is what I can come up with.

Ignoring AC modifiers versus weapon type.

End Game Spoilers

Warrior

Armour of the Hart = -2
18 DEX = -6
Ring of Gaxx = -8
Ring of Earth Control = -9
Cloak of the Sewers = -10
Helm of Balduran = -11
Sentinel Shield = -16
Defender of Easthaven = -17
Nine Hells = -19

This is the undispellable base AC. With innate abilities and combat boosters, it is possible to temporarily breach the -20 mark.

Butterfingers · 04-03-2003, 10:49 PM

How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?

Pirengle · 04-04-2003, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by Butterfingers:
How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?

That 9 INT and 6 WIS sound a lot like Minsc...

Jon Irenicus · 04-04-2003, 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by Pirengle the BNM:

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Originally posted by Butterfingers:
How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?

That 9 INT and 6 WIS sound a lot like Minsc...[/QUOTE]IIRC it "IS" Minsc...

Jim · 04-04-2003, 05:19 AM

A few points:

Klutz, the ring of Gaxx allows the user to cast invisibility, not improved invisibility, therefore the +4 AC bonus here won't apply
Six, the Girdle of Glory provides a +3 AC bonus against slashing weapons only, therefore this can't count towards base AC

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What dex gives you a -5AC bonus? If 20, might be able to achieve -5 by BG1 import of race with natural 19 dex

The next AC bonus due to DEX occurs at 21. The only ways to get a natural 21 DEX are:
Start BG1 with an elven/halfling character, 19 DEX. The tome will boost this to 20. Then, in BG2, you could get a bonus point to your DEX in hell (provided that your primary class is a thief) to make this 21. There is also potentially a further +2 DEX that can be achieved in ToB (one of these again assumes thief), making the best natural DEX 23 (and the next AC bonus point isn't until 24 DEX)
Start BG2 with an elven or halfling character, 19 DEX (either as single, dual or MC thief). You can then get +1 DEX in hell, and a further +2 DEX in ToB, granting a maximum of 22.

Dundee Slaytern · 04-04-2003, 05:27 AM

I think SoS is talking about the Item Upgrade's Girdle of Glory, which confers a bonus of -3 to your base AC. The Golden Girdle is the one with the modifiers against slashing weapons IIRC.

Jim · 04-04-2003, 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
I think SoS is talking about the Item Upgrade's Girdle of Glory, which confers a bonus of -3 to your base AC. The Golden Girdle is the one with the modifiers against slashing weapons IIRC.

Ah, of course, I was indeed thinking of the Golden Girdle, although Six said: "It's standard BG2 and no crazy MODs...", so I automatically ruled out the girdle from the Item Upgrade Mod.

Dundee Slaytern · 04-04-2003, 05:34 AM

I think by no crazy mods, SoS meant that it required no game-breaking mod items.

Jim · 04-04-2003, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
I think by no crazy mods, SoS meant that it required no game-breaking mod items.

Ahh, but if the Item Upgrade Mod is installed, then it's not standard BG2

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04-03-2003, 10:39 PM	#12
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Assuming SoA, and Default SoA only... this is what I can come up with. Ignoring AC modifiers versus weapon type. End Game Spoilers Warrior Armour of the Hart = -2 18 DEX = -6 Ring of Gaxx = -8 Ring of Earth Control = -9 Cloak of the Sewers = -10 Helm of Balduran = -11 Sentinel Shield = -16 Defender of Easthaven = -17 Nine Hells = -19 This is the undispellable base AC. With innate abilities and combat boosters, it is possible to temporarily breach the -20 mark.

04-03-2003, 10:49 PM	#13
Butterfingers Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: November 30, 2002 Location: Five Flagons Inn Posts: 633	How did your Ranger get by with SIX Wisdom?

04-04-2003, 05:27 AM	#17
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	I think SoS is talking about the Item Upgrade's Girdle of Glory, which confers a bonus of -3 to your base AC. The Golden Girdle is the one with the modifiers against slashing weapons IIRC.

04-04-2003, 05:34 AM	#19
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	I think by no crazy mods, SoS meant that it required no game-breaking mod items.

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