GWB farewll speech.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior As opposed to how many in Iraq? A place that had nothing to do with 9/11. Now, 8 years later the new guy makes it one of his priorities to up the number where we're supposed to be. I mean, isn't that him jusy saying "enough BS, let's do what we should have done on day one".

Actually this increase has been planned, the military said we cannot accommodate ATM, let us prepare for a Spring 09 accession. Just so happens the new guy is getting credit from you already? LOL! Furthermore, Iraq is on the down swing, a people voted in government is in place, Gw's time-line for planned withdrawal is nearing, events are at or about where they need to be, and to our distress, there is no immediate plan for long term billeting of US forces there. However, the funding to complete the training and stagging facility was issued and there is a spot where up-to a few modern I or S BCTs can be rapidly placed into action if need be.

Yes he was on air force one, sorry - I did see the widely publicized photo. Helicopter, plane - he didn't land. It wasn't about safety, he was asked recently why he didn't even get down and be with his people, and said because he thought it would be a distraction. Not that he felt threatened.

Safety vs distraction. Safety was not an issue, impossible was the issue. Distraction? As a leader I groomed my subordinate leaders to replace me. If I had to get in their business, who was handling my business? If the senior commander wanted to conduct a spot check on one of my teams, I saw no reason for me to be there. I would more than likely present a distraction to the event. GW got a birds eye view, and went back to DC to handle business, with the intent of returning soon to do the publicity stunt.

But here again I say, once he gave the orders, stuff should have happened like well oiled clock works. Here it is possible that the system could be evaluated and revised. My personal thought is, move the hell out. This was *NOT* the first time it happened. Problem is, that area receives an extremely large share of federal aid on a yearly basis (slum)...

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin Actually this increase has been planned, the military said we cannot accommodate ATM, let us prepare for a Spring 09 accession. Just so happens the new guy is getting credit from you already? LOL! Furthermore, Iraq is on the down swing, a people voted in government is in place, Gw's time-line for planned withdrawal is nearing, events are at or about where they need to be, and to our distress, there is no immediate plan for long term billeting of US forces there. However, the funding to complete the training and stagging facility was issued and there is a spot where up-to a few modern I or S BCTs can be rapidly placed into action if need be.

So wait, 8 years later, almost a decade, Bush suddenly figured out where he needed to send the troops? And timed it just as his term was up? If so, I can add that to the list of his major F-ups.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior So wait, 8 years later, almost a decade, Bush suddenly figured out where he needed to send the troops? And timed it just as his term was up? If so, I can add that to the list of his major F-ups.

More like 6, but hey, it's your story, right?

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin More like 6, but hey, it's your story, right?

Well, that is only, if we assume he didn't have beef with Saddam all along. He just got the perfect excuse to do it on 9/11 and then in 2003 decided lets convince america this is where the the wmd's are. Now we're back to wmd's again, we did that already.

[Felix The Assassin]

Here, just a small token of real American politics:

Originally Posted by :stolen from the web Barack Obama’s position on Iraq has shifted significantly over the last six years. What is interesting is how his position on Iraq matches up with developments in Chicago. Specifically, there appears to be a direct correlation between the rising and falling prospects of his longtime friend and fundraiser Tony Rezko’s attempts to secure multi-million-dollar contracts to build and operate a power plant in Kurdish Iraq and the senator’s Iraq flip-flops.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior So wait, 8 years later, almost a decade, Bush suddenly figured out where he needed to send the troops? And timed it just as his term was up? If so, I can add that to the list of his major F-ups.

Question? Are you also one in which feels GW "stole" the election in Y2K?

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by Felix The Assassin Question? Are you also one in which feels GW "stole" the election in Y2K?

I am on the fence about it in many ways. I don't have enough info. or evidence -and prolly never will, to say so (although who knows, with Bush leaving office, people tend to get brave and come out of the woodwork with admissions/confessions)

I do find it curious that he had a brother occupying a high position in the state where the votes counted the most, breaking a virtual tie between he and his opponent that was actually taken to court to be settled finally in his favor. Coincidence? Possibly.

I am more puzzled as to what happend in Ohio in 2004 election, and the thousands of votes that went unaccounted for and/or were counted incorrectly in GW's favor. I am curious as to what happend all the abroad/mail-in votes that went unsent, with a judge ruling that thousands of voter mail being returned to sender was not against the law but was indeed quite suspicious and needed a full investigation.

Looking back, I note that, the whole "abuse of power" theme was something echoed throughout GW's presidency, sometimes proven with arrests and resignations and sometimes not proven with fruitless investigations and inquiries.

But it is food for thought. Do I know anything here for certain? No. But, like the rest of the world, I don't care now that he's finally gone.

[pritchke]

Riddle me this: If the former president was dealt a turd sandwich than how many turd sandwiches has the next president received?

I think this requires some economic analysis.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally Posted by pritchke Riddle me this: If the former president was dealt a turd sandwich than how many turd sandwiches has the next president received? I think this requires some economic analysis.

None, yet...

[Lanesra]

Someone leaked the content of the letter that Bush left in the Oval office for Obama!



Dear Barry,

First and foremosting, I would like to congratulatise you on getting the job. It will be great to have someone come in and bring a finished completion to all the work I did. I warn you, though, Baz, being President isn’t all laughs. There are a lot of boring speeches to sit through.

But I think you will make a great commander-in-chife. You’ve got what I’ve got – charismaticism. And that goes a long way. I also dig the way you got all those famous people on your side – they didn’t take much to me. I like that Jon Bono Jovi who sang a few days before your augmentation – he’s a good guy.

My daddy once told me: “Eat your vegetables, George Jnr”. And he was right. Well now its my turn to give out some advisementory words. Don’t let people misunderestimate you the way they misunderestimated me. I hope you don’t misunderstandimate what I’m getting at there Baz – I used a lot of long words in that sentence.

Being the President is a bit like grabbing the bull by the horns – you gotta go up to that bull and grab its horns. In a metaphosphorical sense of course. If you grab a real bull by the horns you won’t be president for too long. You should maybe write that one down.

I’ve left you some pretzels on my desk and, before I forget, I’ve also left you a crisis in the Middle East and a bad economy – in London, England, they’re calling that a “credit crunch”. Ain’t that cute? Sounds like a breakfast cereal to me, Baz. Next time you’re in No 1, Downing Street, tell Gordon Ramsay I said “hi”.

So I guess that’s all I got for ya. I know you’ll be a super leader. They made a movie about me after my 8 years were up, so if they do the same with you, I guess you’ll know you’ve done a good job.

Good luck. Baz.

Yours facefully,

Dubya (spelt with a ‘W’)

PS: Sorry about the lawn….my dog Barney’s little weapons of mass destruction (joke!)