Religion - Page 22

Grungi · 12-05-2002, 08:45 AM

thats what i keep trying to explain, im not tarring other members of the religion by the same brush, people dont seem to believe me though [img]tongue.gif[/img] im not generalising, and most of my statements are based on experiences in reallife ( i had religious debates in many countries with many different religions, last major one i had was conducted in french in morocco in the house of a 60 year old muslim guy who was also a university lecturer so oldschool/newschool mix, was a very interesting debate, for him alcohol, eating pork etc was totally abhorrent but he had no problem at all with me doing it, it didnt make him respect me any less for it (for some muslims im respected less and considered disgusting because i enjoy a pork chop, my response to people who think that about me is: "go ■■■■ yourselves" ill eat pork and drink a beer when i like and damned if someone tells me not to in my house Its happened before)) so i am not speaking from a narrow viewpoint nor am i trying to generalise but i do know alot about alot of religions and have a lot of experience of religious people, and debating religion in french for three hours solid is hard work esp with my not so fluent french [img]tongue.gif[/img]

anyhows im trying to show people im not generalising, id never say ALL but i do say MOST, but the MOST that im going on normally is of those taht i know in my life, i can say ALL only when its from my own experience, i know plenty of muslims for example who do eat pork, drink alcohol etc but still celebrate all the festivals, which i find hypocritical but thats their choice, and frankly if you havent had a decent cooked english breakfast with sausages, bacon and the works you havent lived [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sazerac · 12-05-2002, 10:03 AM

Thread's starting to get unwieldy in size, so I've started another one here:

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...&f=10&t=012862

Cheers,
-Sazerac

[ 12-05-2002, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: Sazerac ]

Cloudbringer · 12-05-2002, 10:07 AM

LOL, Great minds think alike, Saz! I was thinking it was time to start a new one too! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Locking this one down now, go to the one linked in Sazerac's post if you want to continue the discussion.

12-05-2002, 10:03 AM	#212
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 61 Posts: 7,387	Thread's starting to get unwieldy in size, so I've started another one here: http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...&f=10&t=012862 Cheers, -Sazerac [ 12-05-2002, 10:03 AM: Message edited by: Sazerac ] __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

12-05-2002, 10:07 AM	#213
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	LOL, Great minds think alike, Saz! I was thinking it was time to start a new one too! [img]smile.gif[/img] Locking this one down now, go to the one linked in Sazerac's post if you want to continue the discussion. __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

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12-05-2002, 08:45 AM	#211
Grungi Banned User Join Date: September 4, 2002 Location: no Age: 47 Posts: 1,446	thats what i keep trying to explain, im not tarring other members of the religion by the same brush, people dont seem to believe me though [img]tongue.gif[/img] im not generalising, and most of my statements are based on experiences in reallife ( i had religious debates in many countries with many different religions, last major one i had was conducted in french in morocco in the house of a 60 year old muslim guy who was also a university lecturer so oldschool/newschool mix, was a very interesting debate, for him alcohol, eating pork etc was totally abhorrent but he had no problem at all with me doing it, it didnt make him respect me any less for it (for some muslims im respected less and considered disgusting because i enjoy a pork chop, my response to people who think that about me is: "go ■■■■ yourselves" ill eat pork and drink a beer when i like and damned if someone tells me not to in my house Its happened before)) so i am not speaking from a narrow viewpoint nor am i trying to generalise but i do know alot about alot of religions and have a lot of experience of religious people, and debating religion in french for three hours solid is hard work esp with my not so fluent french [img]tongue.gif[/img] anyhows im trying to show people im not generalising, id never say ALL but i do say MOST, but the MOST that im going on normally is of those taht i know in my life, i can say ALL only when its from my own experience, i know plenty of muslims for example who do eat pork, drink alcohol etc but still celebrate all the festivals, which i find hypocritical but thats their choice, and frankly if you havent had a decent cooked english breakfast with sausages, bacon and the works you havent lived [img]smile.gif[/img]

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