What has Saddam actually done?

[Wutang]

Aye but if Saddam knows that he will go down, then he will try to take a parting shot at Israel too just out of spite. Maybe one way suicide missions with what's left of his air force.

I shudder to think what Saddam has still hidden.

And once Israel responds, who knows how the whole Middle East situation unfolds.

[ 03-04-2003, 07:46 PM: Message edited by: Wutang ]

Wutang, he would not get a single aircraft out of Iraqi airspace. I kid you not when I say we have complete and utter air superiority in theatre.

[Sir Taliesin]

Originally posted by MagiK: Wutang, he would not get a single aircraft out of Iraqi airspace. I kid you not when I say we have complete and utter air superiority in theatre.

They did this last weekend! Iraq flew a Mig 25 about 25 or 30 miles into Saudi airspace. I'm trying to figure out how they got through the no-fly zone!

Here is a link! http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...eadlines-world

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by MagiK: Wutang, you pointed something out....the only reason Israel didn't strike back at Iraq in 1991 was because the USA wanted to maintain the coalition....now if it goes off as a US and British only strike, If Iraq fires even one missile at Israel, Im expecting the Israelies to finish the war with Iraq once and for all in one quick strike. I think it would be really foolish of Saddam to try that....

No... he'll try it again. For the same reason as before, to wit: if Israel jumps in, Iraq gains a LOT of allies. All of a sudden, Saudi wants US out, Egypt is rolling tanks toward Israel, etc. etc. ad nauseum. It was the biggest showing of US/Israeli solidarity that Israel held back in 1991 despite continuous SCUD missile fire.

Also note the "savior" Patriot missiles we sent to Israel only got about 20% of the incoming SCUDs. Lucky for us all, SCUDs suck vis-a-vis destructive capability.

Good point TL but you forget, it takes weeks or months to move the most mobile force in the world into place, the rag tag arab forces Iraq would gain as "allies" would be months too late to help Iraq. The war isn't going to last all that long at all [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 03-05-2003, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[Animal]

Originally posted by MagiK: The war isn't going to last all that long at all [img]smile.gif[/img]

Is this the consensus of the general populace of the US? That war is going to happen no matter what?

Originally posted by Animal: Is this the consensus of the general populace of the US? That war is going to happen no matter what?

I cannot speak for the nation, I speak only for myself. I will say, that I believe that there is going to be a war, that Iraq is going to loose and that more than likely the US or the US and England will be the major combatants other than Iraq. I will also say that I wish there were another way, but my definition of a reasonable other way and the UN's differ greatly. I also must say that I think I am a bit better informed on the issue that the average schmoe on the street.

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by Animal: Quote: Originally posted by MagiK: The war isn't going to last all that long at all [img]smile.gif[/img]

Is this the consensus of the general populace of the US? That war is going to happen no matter what?[/QUOTE]This wasn't always the consensus, but it is today. The UN SC has made it clear that it will not act despite 1441, but 1441 wasn't needed for action, Saddam has NEVER submitted to the terms of the ceasefire.

The SC spent alot of time opposing war, but very little trying to avoid it.