War with Iraq - Do you think 'we the people' should VOTE for the war?

[skywalker]

Originally posted by MagiK: Z I think you already know this, but "We the People" already did vote for this....we voted for it in 2000 when Bush was elected, and we voted for it again in 2002 when for only the second time in history the sitting presidents party not only did not loose seats in the house and senate, but actually gained....that is a truely historic and momentous fact that the Libs have been quietly ignoring ever since.

Let me give my opinion, MagiK.

1) We the People, as in everyone, did not vote Bush into office...The Supreme Court did. More than half of the popular vote went to Gore. Realize that I am not claiming sour grapes over the election, but you did bring it up. I, unfortunately have to deal with the fact that he is our President and am trying to get over my disappointment .
2) I believe that the electing of so many Repubs into office in 2002 has less to do with the nation at large wanting to go Right and more to do with the left being in complete disarray with no solid message or alternative to the conservative way. I think many Dems were so fed up with their party that they did not vote at all. And the Independent voters did not embrace the Dems either. Many of the races were far too close to be considered the mandate you espouse. And many of these races were influenced by the Cheerleader in Chief running around the country boosting the Repub candidates. I would rather his time was spent running the country instead of stumping.

We shall see what momentous facts occur in 2004.

Mark

[Ronn_Bman]

Well not to be argumentative.... [img]smile.gif[/img]

1.) The Supreme Court didn't vote anyone into office. The Electoral College did. The Supreme Court ended the seemingly endless counts and recounts in the majorly screwed up Florida elections.

2.) The Republican mid-term win was absolutely due in part to Democratic disarray, but not entirely. Cheerleader in Chief? I think all presidents stump for their party. It's not a Bush invention, it's part of the process and always has been, and furthermore, I'd say Bush IS spending his time running the country and any remarks to the contrary DO seem like sour grapes and not a legitamate excuse for Dems losing.

[ 01-28-2003, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

[skywalker]

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: Well not to be argumentative.... [img]smile.gif[/img] 1.) The Supreme Court didn't vote anyone into office. The Electoral College did. The Supreme Court ended the seemingly endless counts and recounts in the majorly screwed up Florida elections. 2.) The Republican mid-term win was absolutely due in part to Democratic disarray, but not entirely. Cheerleader in Chief? I think all presidents stump for their party. It's not a Bush invention, it's part of the process and always has been, and furthermore, I'd say Bush IS spending his time running the country and any remarks to the contrary DO seem like sour grapes and not a legitamate excuse for Dems losing.

Well this IS what debate is all about, isn't it? You have your view, I have mine and I respect yours. Simple as that.

Mark

[Grojlach]

But what would you want with polls like these? Even if the majority of the US-population wants a war for whatever reason they think it's justified, doesn't the UN get a say in the conclusions drawn from the polls?

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by skywalker: Well this IS what debate is all about, isn't it? You have your view, I have mine and I respect yours. Simple as that. Mark

I respect your opinion, too, but it IS a debate, so I was debating the points you raised.

[ 01-28-2003, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]