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Old 01-26-2003, 09:50 AM   #81
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well my reasoning is different than what i believe Memnoch.
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Did you really post this yourself about yourself? You need to stay off the weed son....
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Old 01-26-2003, 11:11 AM   #82
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well my reasoning is different than what i believe Memnoch.

I believe a plane crashed into the Pentagon.. i just didn't see it in that frame by frame clip linked to above..

What could it have been?

Because surely a plane can't dissapear like you say.. so what happened to the plane? Was it incerated in the fireball of the explosion? Where was the tail or the piece of wing? Did you have a conclusive picture of it to show? Was the black box recovered from the wreckage of the plane at the Pentagon?

Well it could have been a missile launched and bought and paid for by Exxon.. The real global power. If UN is an international joke.. BP and Exxon are not..

Well it could have been a plane hijacked by four Islamic fundamentalists and piloted into the Pentagon.

i tell you what though.. it was a plane.

and if you look at the clip in that link and tell me that it was a plane.. then i will tell you that you were seeing things.. because no plane was in any frame of that video clip in the provided link!
So after all that, you believe it was a plane that hit the Pentagon anyway? [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] Now I get it! [img]tongue.gif[/img] Not picking on you mate, just wanted to understand what was going on, that's all - which I do, now. So I'll stay out of it.

Carry on fellas, don't mind me.

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Old 01-26-2003, 12:44 PM   #83
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Magik is correct on the Iraqi military make up. The majority of equipment is Soviet, or Chinese modified Soviet. A small bit is French.
Yes - but this is old (pre Gulf War) equipment. Magik said Iraq is still buying weapon from Russia.[/QUOTE]Not sure on how this is relevant. I merely verified the current make up of Iraqi military power. Yes, they are pursuing weapons from Russia, also Chinese modified Russian equipment, and French.

Also 12 yr old equipment is not that old. The F-16 shot down in Bosnia was splashed by 60's tech Russian SAMs. The F-15, one of the premeire air frames flying today is 70's tech. The Colt M1911 .45 cal pistol, IMO one of the best handguns made, is .... 1911 tech. Old is not necessarily ineffective.
[/QUOTE]A 60 year old plane will not fly, no spare parts, US Ground to air missiles are useless after a few years if you cannot get the specificly designed batteries (no they aren't AA's) M16 is useless if you have no more ammo for it. Russian equipment is far easier for them to get and maintain, and then to have spare parts made, specificly because it is lower tech, same goes for chinese.
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Old 01-26-2003, 12:47 PM   #84
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For all the conspiracy theorists, Aircraft are made of mostly aluminum. The reason that a lot of aluminum cannot always be found in aircraft crashes is because Aluminum BURNS! The Sailors on the USS Stark (shot down by a French Exocet missile in the Gulf) found that out the hard way.
The OHP class Frigate has a LOT of aluminum in its construction....bad move for things that may get hot.
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Old 01-26-2003, 01:36 PM   #85
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I think their has been a misunderstanding..

All i ever said was that i didn't see a plane in that video clip that was linked.

I looked at it again.. and i still don't see a plane in it.

I never said that i didn't think a plane hit the Pentagon.
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Old 01-26-2003, 05:07 PM   #86
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I think their has been a misunderstanding..

All i ever said was that i didn't see a plane in that video clip that was linked.

I looked at it again.. and i still don't see a plane in it.

I never said that i didn't think a plane hit the Pentagon.
I understood that Djinn!
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