WHATS FIRST

[TheCrimsomBlade]

well what will set this war in motion?
A.)will it be a terriorest attack in New York City on News Years Eve with one of the 100 missing briefcase Nuclear bombs that have been unaccounted for since the Berlin Wall came down?
B.)Another sharp shooter snipper or maybe 20 or 30 of them at the same time in different cities.
C.)will we start bombing first?
D.)Will we use A Nuclear strike if they do?
E.)is this the End of Irac & Iran and many other middle easter countries just because they believe their God is different than ours, and they are stupid enough to attack The United States.Don't they realise that the U.S. military has the power and the weapons to wipe the human race completely off the planet 20 times over and then do it all over again 20 more times.it reminds me of a mouse teasing a well fed Tiger and sooner or later the Tiger is going to kill the mouse and he still won't eat it because he only likes Beef.
This is not a joke, I'm not writting this to be funny. These are the questions that I see in my mind every time I see or hear anything about the Midddle East. No one on this forum can answer these questions yet and let us hope we never have to EVER!

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: well what will set this war in motion? A.)will it be a terriorest attack in New York City on News Years Eve with one of the 100 missing briefcase Nuclear bombs that have been unaccounted for since the Berlin Wall came down? B.)Another sharp shooter snipper or maybe 20 or 30 of them at the same time in different cities. C.)will we start bombing first? D.)Will we use A Nuclear strike if they do? E.)is this the End of Irac & Iran and many other middle easter countries just because they believe their God is different than ours, and they are stupid enough to attack The United States.Don't they realise that the U.S. military has the power and the weapons to wipe the human race completely off the planet 20 times over and then do it all over again 20 more times.it reminds me of a mouse teasing a well fed Tiger and sooner or later the Tiger is going to kill the mouse and he still won't eat it because he only likes Beef. This is not a joke, I'm not writting this to be funny. These are the questions that I see in my mind every time I see or hear anything about the Midddle East. No one on this forum can answer these questions yet and let us hope we never have to EVER!

The war has already started supposedly. British and American bombers have been striking positions in Iraq (some in civilian-heavy areas, causing innocent deaths) for the past four or five years now, with an escalation of 300% in aerial strikes in the past 12 months. 'Softening them up' I suppose. Regardless of the justifications or human costs, the war has already been initiated. Personally I think it's madness, and with a little luck there really is a hell for all of our world's warmongers to burn in in the afterlife. But if not, the profiteers of such butchery shall be laughing all the way to the bank.

[johnny]

There is nothing more that has to happen, it was decided quite some time ago that Iraq would be invaded, what took so long is public opinion. If nobody would give a damn, Iraq would have been toast already. I think in two months it will all be over.... but then what ?

[TheCrimsomBlade]

I'm afraid your talking about the Human race and I don't think wars will ever be over. but some day we will have used up all of the weapons on this planet and somebody will pick up a wooden club and start it all over again, just look at any history book about the past three thousand years they all say the same thing "my God is better than yours and my army will wipe you out to prove it, unless you give up now and hand over all your weapons" sound familar? If you look through history books back in babalonia times you can find almost the same statement more than 3000 years ago and then look into the future and some day somebody else will say the same thing. OH wait President Bush said it this year 3000 years later. well the circle is complete the End is near one way or another and thats really sick.
Who is really the mad man and why is he so mad and what is he so mad about? I know the reasons that the media give as to why and what but what is the real reason? These people were on our side and now they are sending airplaines crashing into our city killing friends and family for what,and in the name of what god? Has The world has gone totaly mad or just our part of it?
let us all hope that when it's all over this time and the dust has settled, that we are still alive and not the victom of some cowards terriorest attack!

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: I'm afraid your talking about the Human race and I don't think wars will ever be over. but some day we will have used up all of the weapons on this planet and somebody will pick up a wooden club and start it all over again, just look at any history book about the past three thousand years they all say the same thing "my God is better than yours and my army will wipe you out to prove it, unless you give up now and hand over all your weapons" sound familar? If you look through history books back in babalonia times you can find almost the same statement more than 3000 years ago and then look into the future and some day somebody else will say the same thing. OH wait President Bush said it this year 3000 years later. well the circle is complete the End is near one way or another and thats really sick. Who is really the mad man and why is he so mad and what is he so mad about? I know the reasons that the media give as to why and what but what is the real reason? These people were on our side and now they are sending airplaines crashing into our city killing friends and family for what,and in the name of what god? Has The world has gone totaly mad or just our part of it? let us all hope that when it's all over this time and the dust has settled, that we are still alive and not the victom of some cowards terriorest attack!

You can view history in any way that you choose. Yet just because some people in history have decided to fight each other it does not mean that you have to take the same path. All there is is your own personal perception of world, influenced by forces outside your control (which includes the world-perceptions of other people too). You make your own choices. I'm not going to kill my own kind. I've made that choice already. I don't care what rhetoric is used by others in order to try and make me change my mind. We're all living on unconfirmed time. Don't give in to the mob-mentality of war, or else you will be perpetuating the war cycle that you insinuate is the curse of mankind.
Never think of human beings as formations of 'sides'. To do so is to accept the folly of violent conflict and the segregation of man. It is falsehood, and can lead you to nowhere but ruin.

[LordKathen]

Well, I think that we should invade Iraq, reorganise their polotics, then leave. There will of course, be another war down the road, but we can only deal with one at a time. We are human beings with the natural intsinct to be teritorial, violent, and needy of a "higher power" to excuse these intsincts. Dont get me wrong, I have no problem with religion, as long as it is seperate from the government, unlike other countries. We need to bring them up to democracies speed. They will see, when its all said and done, that we ARE right, and will thank us to be rid of the tyranny in their countries, and be truly free to have their faith. I live in a place with one of the biggest nuclear sites in the world to the north, and a chemical weapons depot/incinerator to the south. The last thing I want is a war on our soil. But whether we know it or not, it already is. We need to rid the world of the bad apples wanting to rid us.

[Dreamer128]

*shrugs. Iraq is like a lion without teeth. North Korea is far more dangerous at this time...

[johnny]

Yeah, well...teeth can grow in time. You don't want to look the other way in this case and find out in 10 years Saddam build nukes, cause then we'd have a REAL problem.

Originally posted by The Hierophant: The war has already started supposedly. British and American bombers have been striking positions in Iraq (some in civilian-heavy areas, causing innocent deaths) for the past four or five years now, with an escalation of 300% in aerial strikes in the past 12 months. 'Softening them up' I suppose. Regardless of the justifications or human costs, the war has already been initiated. Personally I think it's madness, and with a little luck there really is a hell for all of our world's warmongers to burn in in the afterlife. But if not, the profiteers of such butchery shall be laughing all the way to the bank.

Don't suppose you would care to put a link to some explanations of this? From the information that I have, US and British planes have been striking at Anti-Aircraft weapons that were in the process of locking them up. This is the process where they target the planes with radar in preperation to fire the AA missile or their AAA guns.

While some of these Missiles are located in populated areas that is not the fault of the US or the British. You do not see the British and the Americans locating their weapons systems in population centers just to deter attacks against them. I would also hardly call attacks against aggressive anti-aircraft defenses as a "war".

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: E.)is this the End of Irac & Iran and many other middle easter countries just because they believe their God is different than ours, and they are stupid enough to attack The United States.Don't they realise that the U.S. military has the power and the weapons to wipe the human race completely off the planet 20 times over and then do it all over again 20 more times.it reminds me of a mouse teasing a well fed Tiger and sooner or later the Tiger is going to kill the mouse and he still won't eat it because he only likes Beef. This is not a joke, I'm not writting this to be funny. These are the questions that I see in my mind every time I see or hear anything about the Midddle East. No one on this forum can answer these questions yet and let us hope we never have to EVER!

I think your premise here is a bit off. They do not believe their god is different than ours, and that has nothing to do with why we will be going to war against them.

1st. Iran and Iraq have different religious sects, one is shiite and the other is Suuni (forgive the spelling errors there) these two countries have been warring with each other for decades and have killed millions of each others citizens.

2nd. Iran is only backing Iraq right now to divert attention fromt he fact that the 90% of the current population in Iran is not in favor of the current regime that is in power and wants a change.

3rd. The war is about Weapons of Mass Destruction and their use or possible use by state sponsored (meaning sponsored by nations) terrorist groups.

Hope this clears some things up for you dude.