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Old 11-12-2001, 06:28 PM   #21
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Osama Bin Laden or any other terrorist's use of a nuke does not worry me as much as the after effect

The death and devastation caused by the use of a single terrorist nuke is nothing compared to the events that could be set in motion by such an attack.
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Old 11-12-2001, 07:57 PM   #22
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Osama Bin Laden or any other terrorist's use of a nuke does not worry me as much as the after effect

The death and devastation caused by the use of a single terrorist nuke is nothing compared to the events that could be set in motion by such an attack.




I totally agree with you here, it would be a VERY different world. In fact, I'm not as worried of Bin Ladden using nukes than of Bush's reaction! Just my opinion!
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Old 11-12-2001, 08:10 PM   #23
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I totally agree with you here, it would be a VERY different world. In fact, I'm not as worried of Bin Ladden using nukes than of Bush's reaction! Just my opinion!



Bush's initial response won't include nuclear weapons for the same reasons they haven't been used in combat since 1945. A response to Bin Laden's nuclear use just might change that!

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Old 11-12-2001, 11:21 PM   #24
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Bush's initial response won't include nuclear weapons for the same reasons they haven't been used in combat since 1945. A response to Bin Laden's nuclear use just might change that!

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I'm not worried about Bush using nukes to strike at Afghanistan. He's surrounded by intelligent men that sort of compensate for is lack of it. No, it's his response to a nuclear weapon being detonated on American soil that worries me. In fact, I'm more scared of Bush than I'm of Bin Ladden!
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Old 11-13-2001, 08:21 AM   #25
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I'm more scared of Bush than I'm of Bin Ladden!


Sorry you feel that way.

If someone detonates a nuke on American soil, Bush won't be the only American to make people nervous.

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Old 11-14-2001, 08:33 PM   #26
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Contray to what you might have heard, a nuclear device is relatively easy to assemble and could fit into the boot of an average car. It is not inconceivable to rent an office on the 100th floor of an office block and detonate it there to get the maximum damage effect.

The only difficult part is obtaining weapons grade plutonium. But since Russia has been:
a) having problems with maintaining and monitoring its 'ancient' nuclear stockpile and
b) some weapons grade plutonium has gone missing in the past from Russian stockpiles and
c)the Russian mafia there are serious players with their hands in everything and have been suspected of having dealt with small amounts of the stuff in the past,
it's only a matter of time before an 'undesirable' gets hold of some...


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Old 11-14-2001, 10:50 PM   #27
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Even before the 11th Sept incident people has been saying that Al Qaeda has a few Tactical nuclear weapon. I think that if Osama did have nuclear weapons it would have already been smuggled into United States in anticipation for the Wtc bombing.

When things starts getting desperate for him....BOOOOOM!!!. "I have another Nuclear Bomb if the Infidels Don't retreat I will detonate it!":-@
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Old 11-15-2001, 08:54 AM   #28
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That is truly a doomsday scenario where all Hell breaks loose
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Old 11-15-2001, 09:36 AM   #29
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Sorry you feel that way.

If someone detonates a nuke on American soil, Bush won't be the only American to make people nervous.

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No but Bush is really to only American that can take the actions in his own hand and authorize the launch of nuclear device... I really doubt that his advisers would be able to contain him like they did after the 9-11 strike!
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Old 11-15-2001, 09:42 AM   #30
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Contray to what you might have heard, a nuclear device is relatively easy to assemble and could fit into the boot of an average car. It is not inconceivable to rent an office on the 100th floor of an office block and detonate it there to get the maximum damage effect.

The only difficult part is obtaining weapons grade plutonium. But since Russia has been:
a) having problems with maintaining and monitoring its 'ancient' nuclear stockpile and
b) some weapons grade plutonium has gone missing in the past from Russian stockpiles and
c)the Russian mafia there are serious players with their hands in everything and have been suspected of having dealt with small amounts of the stuff in the past,
it's only a matter of time before an 'undesirable' gets hold of some...


sleep tight!



Thanks Skunk,

I've been trying to point out for quite a while now that nuclear device can be delivered by other means than missiles. I'm glad you pointed this out in more eloquant terms than I did. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Let's not forget about Pakistan, India, China and a few other third world countries who also have the capability of generating the appropriate kind of plutonium.

It is, IMO, quite feasible for Al-Queda to have nuclear weapons (most likely already positionned within the US/Canada/Europe ready to be detonated at a specific time (let's say the Olympics) or if he is captured or killed!
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