Should the bombs stop for the Islamic holy month in november?

[Bullvye]

What a question huh? Ive heard both sides of this argument as of late, and both sides have substantial points.
Did you know that the prophet Mohammed waged war in 600 A.D. during Rhamidad?(forgive the spelling..I'm no good at Arabic!)
As did Irans leader(cant spell his name too) in the 80's against Iraq.
What should we do? Should we show the world that we are not at war with Islam by respecting this holy month? Or will that send a different message? I've heard it said by our Secretary of Defence that BECAUSE this NOT a "holy war", or a "war against Islam" is precisely why we shouldn't and wont stop the fight against terrorism, Al Queda and the Taliban.(I agree)
I do think if that is the route we take, that support from other Arab nations will take a huge blow!
What do you guys think?

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[Prime2U]

Originally posted by Bullvye: What a question huh? Ive heard both sides of this argument as of late, and both sides have substantial points. Did you know that the prophet Mohammed waged war in 600 A.D. during Rhamidad?(forgive the spelling..I'm no good at Arabic!) As did Irans leader(cant spell his name too) in the 80's against Iraq. What should we do? Should we show the world that we are not at war with Islam by respecting this holy month? Or will that send a different message? I've heard it said by our Secretary of Defence that BECAUSE this NOT a "holy war", or a "war against Islam" is precisely why we shouldn't and wont stop the fight against terrorism, Al Queda and the Taliban.(I agree) I do think if that is the route we take, that support from other Aram nations will take a huge blow! What do you guys think?

Hmmmmm....that is a tough one. I think we should ask the Islamic countries if they would prefer us to continue and get it over with as quickly as possible or to hold off on bombing at least and allow it to drag out and allow more Afghan's to starve. The sooner we finish this the sooner we can get aid into the country.


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"Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - Lennon

[skywalker]

I guess it all depends on who we feel is being the most disrupted.

If we feel it will help put pressure on the Taliban, that's ok!

But if it causes distress for the innocent civilians not so good!

On the other hand it may cause our opponents to gather sympathy while weakening support of our friends in Muslim states!

I guess this is all obvious, but I've never had a problem with stating the obvious.

It is clearly a question the governments in the coalition need to address with much thought. They may want to get all their bombing finished up before then.

Of course the other issue is Winter is coming!

Mark

[Bullvye]

Originally posted by Prime2U: Hmmmmm....that is a tough one. I think we should ask the Islamic countries if they would prefer us to continue and get it over with as quickly as possible or to hold off on bombing at least and allow it to drag out and allow more Afghan's to starve. The sooner we finish this the sooner we can get aid into the country.

I see your piont loud and clear. But lets not forget that ending this quickly against the terrorist's in Afghanistan will not win the war on terror any quicker.
Afghanistan is just the beginning to ending WORLD terrorism. But the sooner my buddies come home the better!!
And why should we ask anyone for their permission?
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[Prime2U]

Originally posted by Bullvye: I see your piont loud and clear. But lets not forget that ending this quickly against the terrorist's in Afghanistan will not win the war on terror any quicker. Afghanistan is just the beginning to ending WORLD terrorism. But the sooner my buddies come home the better!! And why should we ask anyone for their permission?

I'm not saying ask for their permission But we should lay the cards on the table for them and make sure they they feel a part of it. And if we finish with Afghanistan before the holy month is over, we should definitely not move on until after it is over.

[Fljotsdale]

Tough one, Bullvye. I'd like to see the bombing stop altogether, as everyone probably knows by now, and other methods used to get bin Laden - but since my wishes don't affect anything...!

I know that in WW1 & WW2, the fighting stopped on christmas day between the German and allied forces, but that is not really the same since both armies were of the same basic religion - (did this happen on the Japanese fronts? History a little shaky).

That said, then you have to ask yourself: would THEY stop for a christian holy period, such as Lent? I beg to doubt it.





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[Bullvye]

Originally posted by skywalker: I guess it all depends on who we feel is being the most disrupted. If we feel it will help put pressure on the Taliban, that's ok! But if it causes distress for the innocent civilians not so good! On the other hand it may cause our opponents to gather sympathy while weakening support of our friends in Muslim states! I guess this is all obvious, but I've never had a problem with stating the obvious. It is clearly a question the governments in the coalition need to address with much thought. They may want to get all their bombing finished up before then. Of course the other issue is Winter is coming! Mark

I dont see winter being that big of a problem. Ithink the media has blown that one WAY out of proportion. The operators we have in place to fight this particular type of conflict are well trained to carry out their mission in ANY type of weather.
Uncomfortable yes,....a problem no...not at all!

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I'm not BAD,.....but the BAD don't mess with me!"

[Bullvye]

Originally posted by Prime2U: I'm not saying ask for their permission But we should lay the cards on the table for them and make sure they they feel a part of it. And if we finish with Afghanistan before the holy month is over, we should definitely not move on until after it is over.

Oh o.k. Not sure I agree with you about stopping in november, but I understand where youre comming from with making them part of it.

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I'm not BAD,.....but the BAD don't mess with me!"

[Fljotsdale]

Originally posted by Bullvye: I dont see winter being that big of a problem. Ithink the media has blown that one WAY out of proportion. The operators we have in place to fight this particular type of conflict are well trained to carry out their mission in ANY type of weather. Uncomfortable yes,....a problem no...not at all!

I think the concern about winter is not for our soldiers, but for the Afghani civilians, Bullvye.

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[skywalker]

Originally posted by Bullvye: I dont see winter being that big of a problem. Ithink the media has blown that one WAY out of proportion. The operators we have in place to fight this particular type of conflict are well trained to carry out their mission in ANY type of weather. Uncomfortable yes,....a problem no...not at all!

I know the Winter was a big issue when Afghanistan fought Russia, I guess times and technology have changed since then.

Mark



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