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Originally posted by Memnoch: Could EVERYONE who visits this forum please check in here and acknowledge that they have read and agreed to abide by these terms please.

Noted and agreed.

Comment: As someone who made a post in all honesty without any intent to flamebait whatsover, and received a rather, err, "warm" reply, it can be hard to judge if an honest post on a sensitive subject is going to be regarded as provocative to someone else.

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ok, so its okay to make hateful jokes about bin ladin and terrorists, with their turbans and beards and all.

Why is it ok to make hateful jokes about diplomatics and pacifists? Obviously they are not lessor citizens who's beliefs are worthy of scorn.

It's not okay to direct vague attacks towards a persons/people's race or religion right? Its not ok to promote violence (disrepect and attack) toward another person or people unless they are terrorists or it is roleplay, correct? I would like some clarity from a moderator or anyone. And please dont just tell me its only a joke, I know that. I do not accept that logic when someone tells a hateful racist joke or a hateful religous joke, even if told innocently and with no hate in the tone.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Moni: I don't post here much, but "Check!"

Rook takes queen "Check-mate"
Sorry Miss Moni Ma'am I couldn't resist



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Airline ticket to Afghanistan $800
High powered rifle with scope $1000
Hotel room with roof access $100
A clean Head shot on that sack of Horse Manure Usuma Bin Laden PRICELESS!

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by G'kar: ok, so its okay to make hateful jokes about bin ladin and terrorists, with their turbans and beards and all. Why is it ok to make hateful jokes about diplomatics and pacifists? Obviously they are not lessor citizens who's beliefs are worthy of scorn. It's not okay to direct vague attacks towards a persons/people's race or religion right? Its not ok to promote violence (disrepect and attack) toward another person or people unless they are terrorists or it is roleplay, correct? I would like some clarity from a moderator or anyone. And please dont just tell me its only a joke, I know that. I do not accept that logic when someone tells a hateful racist joke or a hateful religous joke, even if told innocently and with no hate in the tone.

G'Kar, I think you missed the point Usama Bin Laden is not a MEMBER of the Board, neither are the terrorist. Diplomats and Pacifists are not people those are words that discribe philosophies and attitudes of people. While philosophies can direct peoples actions and thoughts they can not be members of the board, only humans can be members. Ziroc is saying did not intentionally offend any MEMBER OF THE IRON WORKS BOARD (or FAMILY if you will). If someone states that they are offended applogize without quailifiers, instead of fighting about how they couldn't possibly be offended because we all have the right to say what is on our minds! Basicly show respect, if you are offended it is ok to say so, if the offending party applogizes accept it without quailifiers.


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Crustiest of the OLD COOTS
Airline ticket to Afghanistan $800
High powered rifle with scope $1000
Hotel room with roof access $100
A clean Head shot on that sack of Horse Manure Usuma Bin Laden PRICELESS!

Originally posted by John D Harris: Rook takes queen "Check-mate" Sorry Miss Moni Ma'am I couldn't resist

LOL, I bow to your superior form of play.



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[This message has been edited by Moni (edited 10-23-2001).]

Originally posted by G'kar: ok, so its okay to make hateful jokes about bin ladin and terrorists, with their turbans and beards and all.

No, not turbans and beards and all, just THEM. Them personally. Not their religion, race or creed.



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Ziroc™
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Originally posted by Ziroc: No, not turbans and beards and all, just THEM. Them personally. Not their religion, race or creed.

Thanks for repyling and for the clarity.

It is against the rules to be disrespectful and/or atacking towards religions, beliefs, races, or cultures because members of this forum belong to them and have them. Some cultures, religions and creeds are non-violent. Given that some people here express various degrees of non-violent beliefs, would a violently worded joke towards thier beliefs be considered "generally" disrespectful? Violent humor directed at non-terrorists, how does that qualify?

I can understand the ironic humor in the one blatantly obvious joke in question. My disourse is not directed at anyone else's, including the original poster's, perspective on this humor.

edit: For the public: Am I the only one who sees it this way? I'm not trying to be a bummer, but that joke caught me totally of gaurd.

[This message has been edited by G'kar (edited 10-24-2001).]

[Lifetime]

I agree, though I dont post here, or anywhere that much anymore. There are more loaded questions and hurt prides here than a fight with my girlfriend..

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[Nachtrafe]

Originally posted by Memnoch: Could EVERYONE who visits this forum please check in here and acknowledge that they have read and agreed to abide by these terms please.

Can do and will do bossman. Two thumbs...err...two wings up!!

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[Memnoch]

I'm still waiting for more of the regulars to post their acknowledgments here. Sorry for the micromanagement, but it's been coming for a while.

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