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Old 11-03-2004, 12:24 PM   #11
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*sigh*

I forgot there was another one...here's hoping the Bush legacy will live on in 2008! [img]smile.gif[/img]

*turns off sarcasm*
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:29 PM   #12
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Ah well. Back to the asylum for me and congratuations to Bush.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:29 PM   #13
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By the time November 2008 rolls around, we will have forgotten who Kerry is, and he'll be too busy ice fishing with Gore.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:32 PM   #14
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LOL @ Timber's post

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Hmm, Ohio results are in.

http://news.yahoo.com/electionresults

Bush won, whatever.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:35 PM   #15
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I feel betrayed... There were so many votes that they weren't going to count for weeks. Now we'll never know.

And yet... on some level. I suspected this would happen. If Kerry won, Hillary wouldn't be able to run in '08.

It still depresses me. So does the gay marrriage/civil union debacle. I feel more than a little resentful and scornful towards those states that not only banned marriages, but civil unions as well.

In fact, why is it that they can amend state constitutions to BAN gay marriage but not ALLOW it? Can someone help me out? Am I missing something?
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:36 PM   #16
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Homosexual marriage should never have been on any ballot anywhere. It is a personal issue, not a political one.
The demands of the Gay Rights Movement that states officially sanction their partnerships made it a political issue, Azred. And putting the issue on the ballot for the general population to vote on is much fairer than the State Gov't's making the decision on their own.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:39 PM   #17
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Yeah, those referendum results on gay marriage were rather embarrassing. It only emphasises the major differences between Western Europe's progressive elements and the US's more traditional ones...
Nice backhanded insult, Grojlach. As you are fond of saying, "I thought you were better than that." [img]graemlins/dontknowaboutyou.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:41 PM   #18
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Not sure Kerry would have been best for Canada as we would have likely had more trade wars with Kerry than we had with Bush.

Our dollar is now up to 80 something cents US, I guess with another term of bush it will be a dollar something. If this is the case I will probaly pay an affordable visit in the near future.

I guess a negative thing for Canada with Bush elected, is Bush knows that Canada has 20% of the worlds fresh water supply, as well as hydroelectricity and more oil and natural gas than Saudi Arabia... Real tanks will be coming for Canada soon!!!

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Old 11-03-2004, 12:49 PM   #19
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What's done is done, on to the next scrap.

Kerry is done for President he won't do good at all in 2008, we eat the loser here in the US or at least say you had your shot now move over and let somebodyelse have their shot.

I'm glad (the US citizen in me) to see he conceded, if he or the Dems would have tried a protracted legal fight there would have been "Hale" to pay, that was the right and smart move to make. About the only thing the US can't stand is a sore loser, if somebody loses and is Honorable about their loss the American people can still have pride in them. Somebody that is a spoiled sport about losing the American people will show little if any mercy in their condemnation. The Conservative Republican in me wanted him to draw this out, so I could sit back and watch the colapse of the Dems, but hey even You can't always get what you want, but if your try sometimes you'll find you get what you need. The US needed the loser to concede, so I'll enjoy my US citizen having the overriding need taken care of, as oppossed to the Conservative Republican.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:50 PM   #20
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The demands of the Gay Rights Movement that states officially sanction their partnerships made it a political issue, Azred. And putting the issue on the ballot for the general population to vote on is much fairer than the State Gov't's making the decision on their own.
I know, Cerek. The Gay Rights Movement overplayed their hand over the last year. They will have twice as much trouble now trying to become fully and officially recognized, but I suppose waiting for a Democrat victory was too long to wait.

The Republicans also gained control of both houses of Congress, which means the
next couple of Supreme Court justice nominations will be conservative ones. Perhaps Bush will focus on shaping his legacy, which means the possibility of more even-handed legislation and policy changes. Or perhaps we will complete our conquest of the world, after all. [img]graemlins/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif[/img]
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