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Old 05-12-2004, 11:24 AM   #11
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This is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black
Perhaps you'd care to back up your claim with links to histories that Jews and Israel have attempted to rewrite. Examples of commonly held historical FACTS, that the Jews have attempted to revise. Otherwise it's yet another example of your groundless, proofless, reasonless and heavily biassed manure that you keep spurting forth.


The revisionism of history by Islamic nations - denial of the holocaust for example, and now this - is an offense to human truth, human understanding, peace, intelligence and reconcilliation.

The whole "fabrication" issue is not only an insult to Jewish historians - who yes, were literate well before their Arab counterparts - but also to the Persian and Roman historians who recorded the rebuilding of the temple and it's subsequent redestruction.
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Old 05-12-2004, 03:08 PM   #12
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I challenge you, Skunk, to go dig up one -- just one -- shining gem or nugget of info indicating that Jews have a tendancy to rewrite historical facts [edit: well, let's do ignore the creative histories of the likes of SKG and other big-name Hollywood jews, please ]. I think you'd have to go back to current historians' ruminations as to what happened during biblical times (about the time when the church, library, and head of government were all located in one centralized managed area) to find any evidence of the sort. I've read several articles about Muslim scholars working to rewrite historical facts, but have yet to notice one about Jewish scholars doing the same. It's a cultural trait one group has that the other does not.

So the pot simply ain't black. Maybe it's a case of a copper pot calling a kettle black?

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Old 05-12-2004, 05:22 PM   #13
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This is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black
Perhaps you'd care to back up your claim with links to histories that Jews and Israel have attempted to rewrite. [/QUOTE]Check out this site as a shining example of revisionism:
http://www.us-israel.org/

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Old 05-12-2004, 05:34 PM   #14
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Check out this site as a shining example of revisionism:
http://www.us-israel.org/

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How is that site a shining example of revisionism? You've posted a link to a site that has nothing to do with your claims as if it proves your point.

To help back up my claims you should check out this website right here!
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Old 05-12-2004, 05:40 PM   #15
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Skunk, you shot yourself in the foot with that one. A library of informative sources (which appeared to read pretty accurately and fairly from my brief look) is not revisionism -- in fact, it appears to be quite the opposite.

But, hey, thanks to a great link to a history of the region.
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:03 PM   #16
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This is the site that has an entire chapter entitled:
"Rewriting History in Textbooks"
which demands that history is re-written to paint Israel in the best possible light - despite FACTS to the contrary. They might at least wait until those of us who WERE ALIVE when those event took place AND REMEMBER THEM CLEARLY AS THEY WERE have died before attempting to re-write history into their own utopia...
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Old 05-12-2004, 06:17 PM   #17
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This is the site that has an entire chapter entitled:
"Rewriting History in Textbooks"
which demands that history is re-written to paint Israel in the best possible light - despite FACTS to the contrary. They might at least wait until those of us who WERE ALIVE when those event took place AND REMEMBER THEM CLEARLY AS THEY WERE have died before attempting to re-write history into their own utopia...
I just finished reading that chapter Skunk and it no where "demands that history is re-written to paint Israel in the best possible light"
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:46 PM   #18
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This is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black
Perhaps you'd care to back up your claim with links to histories that Jews and Israel have attempted to rewrite. [/QUOTE]Check out this site as a shining example of revisionism:
http://www.us-israel.org/

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[/QUOTE]In case you misread, I'll say it again:

Perhaps you'd care to back up your claim with links to histories that Jews and Israel have attempted to rewrite.
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Old 05-13-2004, 08:47 AM   #19
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If you refer to this link


http://www.us-israel.org/pub/texts.html


Then i hardly see your point. It states that many authors that wrote about jewish history made mistakes, and that these mistakes should be corrected. That is it. Bring forth something new.

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