Wow - what a news day.

[Davros]

It started for me with GW's endorsement of Israeli settlements - those ones that are so contentious. The case that they have been there so long now that they should be considered permanent looks a little flimsy to me though, and sure to inflame the situation.

And this afternoon Bin Laden offers a truce to Europe.

A fairly large news day.

[Donut]

Why is there no "disbelief" smiley?

[johnny]

I read it too, about Bin Laden's truce. Think we should accept ?

[Davros]

What - get Europe to agree on something johnny???

No - while I don't think war can prove an effective deterrent to terrorism, appeasement to demands has never been shown to work either.

[Timber Loftis]

Well, I think this does wonders to show Bin Laden's conviction to his ideals. F-tard. I hope his bloody turban gets displayed in a museum near me when this is all through. Spoiled rich brat mysogenist decides to use daddy's money to convince others to kill themselves in the name of religious zealotry. I don't exactly respect him.

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: Well, I think this does wonders to show Bin Laden's conviction to his ideals. F-tard. I hope his bloody turban gets displayed in a museum near me when this is all through. Spoiled rich brat mysogenist decides to use daddy's money to convince others to kill themselves in the name of religious zealotry. I don't exactly respect him.

*in mad-scientist voice*
Excellent! The Magik-metamorphosis is complete. All voids must be filled...

[Timber Loftis]

Hey, Heirophant, I'm feeling generous today, so have 2 of these. [img]graemlins/finger.gif[/img]

Here's the NY Times article. The quotes below are from it.

The tape made clear overtures to Europeans, calling them ``our neighbors north of the Mediterranean,'' and tried to drive a wedge between Europe and the United States.

And, taking a cue from Kerry, OBL crawls out of his hole long enough to flip-flop about. I actually like this, because it shows his convictions are weaker than my hedonist infidel president's convictions. I always knew Texans were more stalwart than any of those ■■■■■ extremists.

Ayman Gaballah, editor of Al-Arabiya, said only that the pan-Arab television network received the tape from ``our sources.'' He would not say if the tape was received at its headquarters in the United Arab Emirates or in a bureau elsewhere, such as Pakistan or Afghanistan.

These people need a serious talking to. Knowing which office received the tape would help pinpoint OBL. I think they need to be interrogated further, at gun point and with hot pokers. They can give up this info, journalistic integrity be damned. Pass me the thumbscrews.

Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., expressed skepticism about the offer made on the tape. ``You cannot negotiate with terrorists, especially someone like Osama bin Laden,'' Shelby told ``Today.''

See, it's the simple lessons we forget. But, you can't tell this to Europe. OBL knows they'd rather talk and negotiate a problem to death rather than get off their namby pamby asses and actually do something.

Russians, he said, were only killed after attacking Afghanistan in the 1980s and Chechnya, Europeans after invading Iraq and Afghanistan and the Americans in New York after ``supporting the Jews in Palestine and their invasion of the Arabian Peninsula.''

[img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] Yeah, the demarcation line is real clear. Forget other acts of terrorism aimed against America. They don't like infidels, and that's that.

``Stop spilling our blood so we can stop spilling your blood,'' the message added. ``This is a difficult but easy equation.''

Sorry, but the bloodletting has begun. I say let it flow freely until there is a resolution. It is us or them, folks, we cannot coexist with terrorists. Luckily, we are able to kill them faster than they kill us.

These days I'm all for nuking the entire region, cordoning it off with yellow tape, and making it a wasteland uninhabitable by humans -- at least then it won't be a frikkin headache.


And, Heirophant, NOW the transformation is complete. [img]graemlins/finger.gif[/img]

[johnny]

Perhaps people need to stop talking trash about others who aren't around to defend themselves anymore, it's a little immature.

[Donut]

Originally posted by Timber Loftis quote: Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., expressed skepticism about the offer made on the tape. ``You cannot negotiate with terrorists, especially someone like Osama bin Laden,'' Shelby told ``Today.''

See, it's the simple lessons we forget. But, you can't tell this to Europe. OBL knows they'd rather talk and negotiate a problem to death rather than get off their namby pamby asses and actually do something.

[/QB][/QUOTE]Oh dear Timber. History teaches us that you always have to negotiate with terrorists or their representatives eventually. Gerry Adams, Martin McGuinness, Menachem Begin, Nelson Mandela, Archbishop Makarios.

Can you give me an example of a case where terrorists have been beaten by might alone?

That doesn't mean you have to negotiate with Osama bin Laden of course.

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by johnny: Perhaps people need to stop talking trash about others who aren't around to defend themselves anymore, it's a little immature.

heh heh. Aww c'mon man. S'all in good fun [img]smile.gif[/img]