Visit the Ironworks Gaming Website Email the Webmaster Graphics Library Rules and Regulations Help Support Ironworks Forum with a Donation to Keep us Online - We rely totally on Donations from members Donation goal Meter

Ironworks Gaming Radio

Ironworks Gaming Forum

Go Back   Ironworks Gaming Forum > Ironworks Gaming Forums > General Discussion
FAQ Calendar Arcade Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 10-31-2003, 11:48 AM   #1
Timber Loftis
40th Level Warrior
 

Join Date: July 11, 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 11,916
Mossad behind 9/11 attacks: Durrani

http://www.sabawoon.com/news.asp?id=15242&view=detail

WASHINGTON, USA, 10/30/2003 (Dawn) ::

Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service, organized the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, in order "to start a war between Muslims and Christians," says NWFP Chief Minister Akram Khan Durrani.

In an interview to United Press International (UPI), Mr Durrani said: "It is inconceivable that a power like the United States, which has enormous technological means at its disposal, would not know ahead of time what was being planned."

Asked if the Taliban movement was staging a comeback in Afghanistan, Mr Durrani said: "America wanted to be the sole superpower and the defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan was the sine qua non of its quest. Then came Taliban in the vacuum that followed the Soviet withdrawal. The Taliban are not just students. They are the same Jihadis who chased the Russians out. Many came from Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries to fight against the Russian invader. But when they tried to go home, they were treated as criminals and terrorists. Some were barred from returning home and others were sentenced to death or life imprisonment. So they returned to the region where they knew they would be welcome."

Asked if he was suggesting that Taliban are for the most part foreigners, Mr Durrani said: "In the literal sense (they) were no more than 1,000 at the outset. Later Taliban came to symbolize the entire Afghan nation.

Mr Durrani criticized the US government for human rights violations in Guantanamo Bay prison where he said: "Afghan prisoners of war were caged like dangerous animals."

Criticizing the US decision to invade Iraq, he said: "Your reason for attacking Iraq was weapons of mass destruction that did not exist. It is now obvious that the Bush government's objective was Iraq's oil resources that will now be under American control."

Mr Durrani firmly rejected the accusation that the NWFP's ruling coalition comprises Taliban-like religious zealots. "We are true democrats," he responded, "witness the way we conduct our policies in NWFP, in sharp contrast to the military dictatorship at the center.

We also advocate peace with India over Kashmir; again witness the recent journey to New Delhi by one of our three top leaders with an offering of peace. As a result, India has responded with 12 confidence-building measures."

Responding to news reports that MMA workers were attacking cinemas in Peshawar, Mr Durrani said: "We are not closing down movie houses. But a few emotional zealots, acting on their own, did tear down some salacious billboards. And the police who did not interfere were suspended. We apologized on the floor of our provincial assembly and compensation was voted for damage done. We have promoted female education and female sports. Taliban are definitely not our cup of tea."

Asked what he thought of President Pervez Musharraf's pro-American policies, Mr Durrani said: "The people of Europe are against America's Iraq policy and the American people are also beginning to turn against Bush government's policies now that they realize WMDs were a hoax. That is why we (the MMA) demand that Gen Musharraf doff his uniform and compete as a civilian politician. That would bring about an end to the military dictatorship."

The chief minister rejected charges that MMA was trying to hasten the establishment of the sharia in NWFP. "We are leaning over backward to avoid being accused of anything that might be seen as rash," he said.

Mr Durrani concluded by saying that a world with one superpower "is very dangerous. There is no counterweight. Things were less dangerous during the Cold War when we had two superpowers. The same applies in a village that only has one elder. He could take unwise decisions with no countervailing force. A village is much safer with two elders. So was the world."
__________________
Timber Loftis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 02:12 PM   #2
johnny
40th Level Warrior
 
Ms Pacman Champion
Join Date: April 15, 2002
Location: Utrecht The Netherlands
Age: 59
Posts: 16,981
Methinks Mr. Duranni smoked a little too much of his homegrown "Black afghan".
__________________
johnny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 02:26 PM   #3
pritchke
Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess
 

Join Date: September 5, 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
Age: 50
Posts: 3,491
When it comes to Bush and Iraq I am smoking the same stuff. [img]graemlins/smokybounce.gif[/img]

Cough!!!Cough!!! I am starting to see the WoMD through the haze, what are all the pretty colors? [img]graemlins/smoky6.gif[/img]


[ 10-31-2003, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]
pritchke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 03:13 PM   #4
Black Baron
Red Wizard of Thay
 

Join Date: September 7, 2003
Location: Israel
Age: 41
Posts: 877
I am sorry. I am terribly sorry.
i must confess.
We, jews controll the world. We did it all. Whahaahaaaa

And then everyone wonders why the arab states are so unpopular in the general public. Pfeh. (with some exceptions).
__________________
Case from my reservist service:

Kids attention, I have brought you something...

Don't pull that ring private!!
Black Baron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 04:31 PM   #5
Faceman
Hathor
 

Join Date: February 18, 2002
Location: Vienna
Age: 43
Posts: 2,248
IMHO these conspiracy theories (would have spawned anyway but) would have never become THAT popular if there had been a proper investigation after 9/11 and not just some hazy sometimes contradictory explanations.
__________________
\"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman
Faceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 04:34 PM   #6
Rokenn
Galvatron
 

Join Date: January 22, 2002
Location: california wine country
Age: 61
Posts: 2,193
Quote:
Originally posted by Faceman:
IMHO these conspiracy theories (would have spawned anyway but) would have never become THAT popular if there had been a proper investigation after 9/11 and not just some hazy sometimes contradictory explanations.
Yup, Bush and Co are still stalling the independent commission on files they want access to. It looks like it will end up in court to drag them out.
__________________
“This is an impressive crowd, the haves and the have mores. <br />Some people call you the elite. <br />I call you my base.”<br />~ George W. Bush (2000)
Rokenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 04:55 PM   #7
Seraph
Quintesson
 

Join Date: September 12, 2001
Location: Ewing, NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 1,079
I personally don't think that Mossad has the skill required to find a plane in Logan airport, let alone this.
Seraph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2003, 07:08 PM   #8
johnny
40th Level Warrior
 
Ms Pacman Champion
Join Date: April 15, 2002
Location: Utrecht The Netherlands
Age: 59
Posts: 16,981
Quote:
Originally posted by Seraph:
I personally don't think that Mossad has the skill required to find a plane in Logan airport, let alone this.
You'd be surprised what they can do.
__________________
johnny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2003, 09:07 AM   #9
Stratos
Vampire
 

Join Date: January 29, 2003
Location: Sweden
Age: 44
Posts: 3,888
I assume you have some proofs of these accusations, Mr. Durrani. You do have proofs, right?

Mossad definately have the skills necessary to do something like this, but they don't have a reason to. The general uneasiness and tension around the world after 9/11 is affecting Israel as well.

[ 11-01-2003, 09:08 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ]
__________________
Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.
Stratos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2003, 11:28 AM   #10
Seraph
Quintesson
 

Join Date: September 12, 2001
Location: Ewing, NJ
Age: 43
Posts: 1,079
Quote:
Originally posted by johnny:
You'd be surprised what they can do.
Like Botching the assassination a Hamas leader back in 97, failing to predict the intifada which began in 1987, being caught spying on the US back in 86, assassinating an innocent man, and totally failing to predict the surprise Arab attack that began the Yom Kippur War in 73? Mossad was responsible for the releace of Sheik Ahmed Yessin in the late 90's.

Mossad is not the organization it was back in the 60's when it was doing things like capturing the Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann, and was already on the decline in the 70's when it was tracking down Black September, and planing the '76 raid that rescued passengers from an Air France jet. The only remotely recent major success that I can recall was the assisanation of the "Engineer" about 8 years ago.
Seraph is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:39 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved