Am I mage heavy? Comments on Jan

pBluescript · 05-11-2002, 12:30 PM

I recently decided to acquire Jan and drop Yoshimo. I like Jan's attitude, his thieving skills, his crossbow and magic skills. His strength for battle and armour class leave much to be desired. To cure his strength problems I bought him a girdle of hill giant strenght (the gold was just burning a hole in my pocket anyway). I don't really know what to do to improve his armour class much though.

This leaves my party as Me and Minsc (2 rangers), Jahira, Aeria, Jan and Nalia. I am just curious if this leaves me a little weak in the hand to hand combat area. If this is so, who would you dump out of the party and who would you pick up? Right now I think I would dump Jahira and pick up a paladin (if I had to make a party change).

We shall see, I am taking this group out to the Umar Hills for a test run.

Sir Exxon · 05-11-2002, 12:45 PM

That party sounds good. You have support in every important skill, though two Mages isnt really necessary, so I say dump Nalia for Keldorn. Cause then you'll get another good fighter, and a guy who also knows a few cleric-spells.
A good party, with other words. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Lewzbel · 05-11-2002, 12:47 PM

While I haven't yet played the whole game through, I think you should be fine. Don't overlook Jaheira as a melee solution. I have a very mage heavy party myself. A Jester, Nalia, Imoen, Aerie, Jaheira and Mazzy. Mazzy alone can take care of most hand to hand situations, or I'll send in Jaheira first (she has the lowest AC in my group) and use her as a decoy while the bard and Mazzy go in and attack from the sides. But I'm in the underdark and haven't had any problems yet, and it sounds like you have a little more melee firepower than I do, so go for it.

SixOfSpades · 05-11-2002, 08:13 PM

You may have some problems with such a "Mage-heavy" party early in the game, but near the end, when your spellcasters are really feeling their oats, you'll be glad you've Nalia, with Aerie and Jan for backup. Imagine you're fighting a dragon; Having an extra Fighter isn't going to do jack for you, but another Mage will make that monster hit the ground a lot faster. As long as you've got 1 really good Tank, and 1 or 2 substitute Tanks, that's all the brawling power you'll need. Also, I'd have to say that in the long run, Jan's Mage skills make him a much more versatile Thief than Yoshimo.

Glorfindel · 05-11-2002, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
That party sounds good. You have support in every important skill, though two Mages isnt really necessary, so I say dump Nalia for Keldorn. Cause then you'll get another good fighter, and a guy who also knows a few cleric-spells.
A good party, with other words. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I personally think 2 mages together is a very good tactic... my FAVOURITE team is(Any Alignment, hehe I have the no break mod):
Me [Dual-weilding CF, and DakkonsZB, wearin Robe of Vecna &Amulet of power etc.](Elven F/M... chaotic Good mostly)
Minsc[Two-Handed swords](Sometimes I use Keldorn instead THEN: SPOILER-->Replaced by Sarevok in ToB)
Mazzy[Arrows]
Viconia[Crom & a sheild, before hand using a cool little mace from Thaxsilliya(freedom Reign Mod I think [img]tongue.gif[/img] )]
Edwin[Robe of Vecna(I import my elven F/M from previous game [img]tongue.gif[/img] )
& Jan[Firetooth [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img] ]

Why did I write this? because I am bored... thats why, and also because 2 mages let off some SERIOUS fire-power..... just tryin to prove my point

Darkon Blackblood · 05-11-2002, 09:09 PM

That's not that magic heavy, i would keep it, i mean once i had an Elven F/M, Aerie, Imoen, Jan, Anomen and Jahiera, and we kicked ass, actually, i don't think anyone died except the first time i tried Kangaxx and Firkraag

Glorfindel · 05-11-2002, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darkon Blackblood:
That's not that magic heavy, i would keep it, i mean once i had an Elven F/M, Aerie, Imoen, Jan, Anomen and Jahiera, and we kicked ass, actually, i don't think anyone died except the first time i tried Kangaxx and Firkraag

Kangaxx is easy with a f/M... you did use protection from abjuration didnt you???

Raistlin Majere · 05-12-2002, 06:01 AM

i would drop nalia for anomen. hes an excellent fighter/cleric! if not anomen, then perhaps keldorn or minsc, perhaps viconia(best cleric in the freaking game)

Glorfindel · 05-12-2002, 06:11 AM

Hmm I REALLY dont like Nalia as a useful party member... Imoen is better than her in everyway.. and we all know how much worse Imoen is than Jan... Jan of Imoen/Nalia anyday pplz!!

Morte · 05-13-2002, 06:36 AM

Whatever you do, keep Nalia, as she reaches level 9 faster than amy other mage (except Edwin?).

As for melee, I find that Aerie can take care of herself. Just give her the best shield you can find.

My ultimate party:

Marvin (Bard)
jaheira (Fighter/Druid)
Mazzy (Fighter)
Aerie (Mage/Cleric)
Nalia (Mage)
Jan (Thief/Illusionist)

As you can see 4 of my party can cast mage spells.

05-11-2002, 08:13 PM	#4
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	You may have some problems with such a "Mage-heavy" party early in the game, but near the end, when your spellcasters are really feeling their oats, you'll be glad you've Nalia, with Aerie and Jan for backup. Imagine you're fighting a dragon; Having an extra Fighter isn't going to do jack for you, but another Mage will make that monster hit the ground a lot faster. As long as you've got 1 really good Tank, and 1 or 2 substitute Tanks, that's all the brawling power you'll need. Also, I'd have to say that in the long run, Jan's Mage skills make him a much more versatile Thief than Yoshimo. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

05-11-2002, 09:09 PM	#6
Darkon Blackblood The Magister Join Date: August 12, 2001 Location: Miami FL Posts: 135	That's not that magic heavy, i would keep it, i mean once i had an Elven F/M, Aerie, Imoen, Jan, Anomen and Jahiera, and we kicked ass, actually, i don't think anyone died except the first time i tried Kangaxx and Firkraag __________________ A breath on the back of your neck. You turn around. You look me in the eye. But it is already to late.

05-12-2002, 06:01 AM	#8
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	i would drop nalia for anomen. hes an excellent fighter/cleric! if not anomen, then perhaps keldorn or minsc, perhaps viconia(best cleric in the freaking game) __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

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05-11-2002, 12:30 PM	#1
pBluescript Dungeon Master Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 77	I recently decided to acquire Jan and drop Yoshimo. I like Jan's attitude, his thieving skills, his crossbow and magic skills. His strength for battle and armour class leave much to be desired. To cure his strength problems I bought him a girdle of hill giant strenght (the gold was just burning a hole in my pocket anyway). I don't really know what to do to improve his armour class much though. This leaves my party as Me and Minsc (2 rangers), Jahira, Aeria, Jan and Nalia. I am just curious if this leaves me a little weak in the hand to hand combat area. If this is so, who would you dump out of the party and who would you pick up? Right now I think I would dump Jahira and pick up a paladin (if I had to make a party change). We shall see, I am taking this group out to the Umar Hills for a test run.

05-11-2002, 12:45 PM	#2
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	That party sounds good. You have support in every important skill, though two Mages isnt really necessary, so I say dump Nalia for Keldorn. Cause then you'll get another good fighter, and a guy who also knows a few cleric-spells. A good party, with other words. [img]smile.gif[/img]

05-11-2002, 12:47 PM	#3
Lewzbel The Magister Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Salem, VA Posts: 101	While I haven't yet played the whole game through, I think you should be fine. Don't overlook Jaheira as a melee solution. I have a very mage heavy party myself. A Jester, Nalia, Imoen, Aerie, Jaheira and Mazzy. Mazzy alone can take care of most hand to hand situations, or I'll send in Jaheira first (she has the lowest AC in my group) and use her as a decoy while the bard and Mazzy go in and attack from the sides. But I'm in the underdark and haven't had any problems yet, and it sounds like you have a little more melee firepower than I do, so go for it.

05-12-2002, 06:11 AM	#9
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 37 Posts: 3,337	Hmm I REALLY dont like Nalia as a useful party member... Imoen is better than her in everyway.. and we all know how much worse Imoen is than Jan... Jan of Imoen/Nalia anyday pplz!!

05-13-2002, 06:36 AM	#10
Morte Welcomed New User Join Date: May 13, 2002 Location: UK Age: 46 Posts: 2	Whatever you do, keep Nalia, as she reaches level 9 faster than amy other mage (except Edwin?). As for melee, I find that Aerie can take care of herself. Just give her the best shield you can find. My ultimate party: Marvin (Bard) jaheira (Fighter/Druid) Mazzy (Fighter) Aerie (Mage/Cleric) Nalia (Mage) Jan (Thief/Illusionist) As you can see 4 of my party can cast mage spells.

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