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[TheCrimsomBlade]

The HT is single core Processor with Hyper-Threading(HT)that gives you A Virtual Duel core, But Runs way Hotter and takes twice as long to process than an Actual Duel core.
Pent 4HT is great for Microsoft office
applacations and Busness and will run games better
than a Plain Pent 4. The Pent 4(D) 3.0Ghz has
actually 2 pent 4 3GHz Microprocessors and will
act as if your running a freight train compaired
to a yard switcher. Twice the Processor twice the
processing in the same time It also reqires the
right matched Chipset Motherboard.

So The Pent D prcessorers are twice as fast as the Pent HT and the pent D processorers double check everything like the Pent HT but with no lag nor lock up problems the HT and other single core procressors ten to have when trying to run the
newer high tech Games comming out like Oblivion it also will support 64 Bit processing and still support 32 bit processing without the need to change settings from one type program to another.

AMD is changing over to the intel Pent D processors because of this and other facts.

I Have 2- 19inch flat screem LCD displays and
just to try it I ran Oblivion on one screen and
guild wars on the other. first time I ever needed
to turn down the settings but for 15 min I had
both games running with no lag.

[SpiritWarrior]

So without argument dual is the way to go no matter what, right?

And that example I posted, in effect it would be about double its speed (6ghz) then?

I have a system with HT and I have found it makes very little difference whther its off or on. But is dual core noticeable in comparison?

[ 03-27-2006, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: SpiritWarrior ]

[Tomin]

There is a negligible difference between the 2. The biggest reason is though while the hardware can use the dual core or even 64 bit chips software can't do anything with the extra capabilities. Untill Vista comes out there is no real difference between the 2. Even then they are very similar as one can do twice the calculations while the other has twice the pipeline..

[Zink Whistlefly]

Yup - benchmarks (the latest 3DMark for example) and heavy number crunching utilities (like SETI) will make use of dual core processors and in theory will run twice as fast as a single core (3D Mark only really in the CPU physics tests.

Games are a different story however and require multithreading support in order to take advantage of the second core (only a handful really do at the moment - the Quake IV and Doom 3 engine, Oblivion).

Even without multithreaded support you can still feel the benefits of having 2 physical cores - switching between applications, alt-tabbing out of games etc - there will always be some processing power in reserve to handle these other tasks.

Applications which are not dual core optimised tend to only tie up 50% load form each core, meaning that there is an awful lot of headroom for doing other things, even with one CPU hungry app crunching away.

[Tyrion]

ah, I will pass the recommended exept for CPU speed (whick is 2.44) when i get my new graph card and 512 extra ram

[Lucern]

SpiritWarrior, if that's the route you're going, you could hover on this site for awhile.


http://www1.us.dell.com/content/prod...=22&l=en&s=dfh

Just view the inventory for the Dimensions - they're required to rebuild those when people return them, so they're really not any different from new ones and they're MUCH cheaper. Mine's going on 5 years. Oh wait...they may not be able to ship to Ireland...not sure really. Maybe there's a European version?

[SpiritWarrior]

Yeah we have Dell in Ireland (just no electricity [img]tongue.gif[/img] ).

Thanks for the info. guys, I'll look into it for my future systems for sure.

[Hivetyrant]

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: So The Pent D prcessorers are twice as fast as the Pent HT and the pent D processorers double check everything like the Pent HT but with no lag nor lock up problems the HT and other single core procressors ten to have when trying to run the newer high tech Games comming out

Not really true, dual cores are indeed faster, but not "twice as fast" they are still limited by the shared lvl 1 cache and motherboard bandwidth.

Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade: AMD is changing over to the intel Pent D processors because of this and other facts.

Where on earth did you hear that crap?
AMD although did not invent Dual core, certainly had the fist dual core chip on the market and continue to ahve the fastest processors (dual core included) on the market I do not see why they would change, the AMD dual core architechture is far more advanced than the Intel setup and that's why they perform better, just wait untill they start using DDR2....

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: So without argument dual is the way to go no matter what, right? And that example I posted, in effect it would be about double its speed (6ghz) then? I have a system with HT and I have found it makes very little difference whther its off or on. But is dual core noticeable in comparison?

Hehe, I wish it would be 6Ghz [img]tongue.gif[/img] Yes Dual core is the way of the future, but dont expect the processor to run much faster than the single core equivilant, it doesn't work that way, the main advantage of two cores is that the CPU does not have to stall whilst running many different threads, essentially dual core just makes it easier for you to have a "main" program running and have minimised effects on it by other programs such as the OS or anything else you are running.
(Don't be misguided by my test saying effective 4.8GHz...though that would be damn nice )

Originally posted by Tomin: There is a negligible difference between the 2. The biggest reason is though while the hardware can use the dual core or even 64 bit chips software can't do anything with the extra capabilities. Untill Vista comes out there is no real difference between the 2. Even then they are very similar as one can do twice the calculations while the other has twice the pipeline..

Also not entirely true, dual core technology is not entirely controlled by the software/Operating system and can be used by DOS if neccesary (or if possible [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) though the OS can controll what threads are running on each core.
But yes, 64-bit technology is not fully utilised yet, with minimal ammounts of decent software actually designed to use 64-tech/windows.

Sorry if I sound a bit ranty and I didn't want to offend anyone, but I didn't want old Spirit here getting the wrong idea, though feel free to prove me wrong

EDITon't expect it to run much faster

[ 03-28-2006, 05:36 AM: Message edited by: Hivetyrant ]

[SpiritWarrior]

Yeah I knew it wasn't 6ghz (I wish too) just trying to get the theoretical stuff straight.

What I don't get is this. Dual cores now do what HT was supposed to do but (from my experiences) didn't do it very well. Has the industry now conceded that HT is inferior and gone with dual cores as the better choice from now on? I mean, there was hype about HT at the time but it died down quickly as most didn't seem to see any real difference (the change may be there just not immediately obvious).

My question is have people noticed DC processors performing way better or (forgive me) are we just repeating what we have read or been told? In other words, is this another new hyped up technology like HT was or is it actually doing things for your own personal systems?

[TheCrimsomBlade]

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: Yeah I knew it wasn't 6ghz (I wish too) just trying to get the theoretical stuff straight. What I don't get is this. Dual cores now do what HT was supposed to do but (from my experiences) didn't do it very well. Has the industry now conceded that HT is inferior and gone with dual cores as the better choice from now on? I mean, there was hype about HT at the time but it died down quickly as most didn't seem to see any real difference (the change may be there just not immediately obvious). My question is have people noticed DC processors performing way better or (forgive me) are we just repeating what we have read or been told? In other words, is this another new hyped up technology like HT was or is it actually doing things for your own personal systems?

I read on the AMD site and the Intel site: They both say they you get 80% better
performance out of Duel Core processors and make's the processors run much cooler.
With Duel core Technology you get true parellel processing with 32 bit performance
fo music,video & games pluss its ready for the future 64-bit software. It also
gives you the ability for multi-tasking and increased performance on digital
media.

What it all boils down to is: Duel Core is alot faster than any single core
processor in every and all computer functions and with the added ability to
avoid computer microprocessor lock up many single core computers experence
today.

for me I have never used any computer that runs this well or fast this includes
my single core pent4 3.6ghz computer I use daily at work. This Duel core of mine
can run circles arround it.