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Old 03-09-2006, 10:27 AM   #11
TheCrimsomBlade
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The X1600,X1800 & X1900 all have the same frame rate
(ALL three have 120fps frame rate)

Avivo™ Video and Display Engine

* High performance programmable video processor
o Accelerated MPEG-2, MPEG-4, DivX, WMV9, VC-1, and H.264 decoding (including DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-ray playback), encoding & transcoding
o DXVA support
o De-blocking and noise reduction filtering
o Motion compensation, IDCT, DCT and color space conversion
o Vector adaptive per-pixel de-interlacing
o 3:2 pulldown (frame rate conversion)
* Seamless integration of pixel shaders with video in real time
* HDR tone mapping acceleration
o Maps any input format to 10 bit per channel output
* Flexible display support 120fps
o Dual integrated dual-link DVI transmitters (DVI 1.0 / HDMI compliant and HDCP ready)

o Dual integrated 10 bit per channel 400 MHz DACs
o 16 bit per channel floating point HDR and 10 bit per channel DVI output
o Programmable piecewise linear gamma correction, color correction, and color space conversion (10 bits per color)
o Complete, independent color controls and video overlays for each display
o High quality pre- and post-scaling engines, with underscan support for all outputs
o Content-adaptive de-flicker filtering for interlaced displays
o Xilleon™ TV encoder for high quality analog output
o YPrPb component output for direct drive of HDTV displays*
o Spatial/temporal dithering enables 10-bit color quality on 8-bit and 6-bit displays
o Fast, glitch-free mode switching

o VGA mode support on all outputs
* Compatible with ATI TV/Video encoder products, including Theater 550

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only Differences are as follows:

Radeon X1800 series

Features

* 321 million transistors on 90nm fabrication process
* Sixteen pixel shader processors
* Eight vertex shader processors
* 256-bit 8-channel GDDR3/GDDR4 memory interface
* Native PCI Express x16 bus interface
o GP 8x configurations also supported with external bridge chip
* Dynamic Voltage Control
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Radeon X1600
Features

* 157 million transistors on 90nm fabrication process
* Twelve pixel shader processors
* Five vertex shader processors
* 128-bit 4-channel DDR/DDR2/GDDR3/GDDR4 memory interface
* Native PCI Express x16 bus interface
o AGP 8x configurations also supported with external bridge chip
* Dynamic Voltage Control
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Old 03-09-2006, 01:43 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by JrKASperov:
WRANG. http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frame...humans_see.htm
He's just trying to sell you overpriced video cards.

This quote is especially ridicullous:

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So what is "Enough fps"? I don't know, because nobody went there so far. Maybe 120fps is enough, maybe you will get headaches after 3 hours.
Yeah right. I can play for 20+ hours straight at 30-40 fps and not get any headache. If it appear fluid it appers fluid, period. Everything else is overkill, like I said.

So the human eye can supposedly see 100 fps, it doesn't change the fact that everything with 30+ appear fluid. So if there was dirt between two frames I'd see it, I guess I'll have to make sure dirt doesn't get in my video card, or it could show up between two frames.
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:51 PM   #13
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You guys are going alittle astray with this link.
Who cares really weather its 20fps or 20,000 fps!!
THE POINT IS!!
I get a new speedy fast computer and I'm going to
enjoys the Hell out of Oblivian as well as Guild Wars,
Call of Duty, NWN 2 and the next 20 games
that come out before I have Robert, build the next
generation ASS KICKING sit in and go to the moon
without leaving my house computer for me.
I can't wait to blast off with this one

[ 03-09-2006, 11:56 PM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ]
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:07 AM   #14
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He's psyched...don't knock his rig

I'm kinda waiting for mine to keel over before I buy one that can handle Oblivion, or at least the semester to end. I guess there will be a healthy number of mods by that point.
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:21 AM   #15
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Well, I have already pre-ordered Oblivion and im hoping my current beast will handle it on higher to highest settings, though it most likely wont, but thats ok because im getting my X1900XTX a few days after it comes out.
woot!
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Old 03-10-2006, 10:25 AM   #16
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SEE you on Planet Nine Hivetyrant.
Just remember that the X1900XTX can only be used
on PCI mortherboards and that you have a little
more than 10 inches of space. That sucker is long!!
Also I hope you have the 650W power supply that it
requires to keep it from getting resistance over
heating. I chose the X1600XT for just that reason
I didn't want the Full 24"tall tower case just to hold
the power supply and Card to give it the air space
required to keep it cool. Enjoy! I will.

[ 03-10-2006, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ]
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:25 AM   #17
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If you want a graphics/game rig, get an AMD imo
(AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Dual Core 2.2 GHz)(4200+ means it runs 4.2 GHz intel equivalent) costs less then 400 euro (380 in Netherlands).
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Old 03-15-2006, 01:40 PM   #18
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Quote:
Originally posted by TheCrimsomBlade:
SEE you on Planet Nine Hivetyrant.
Just remember that the X1900XTX can only be used
on PCI mortherboards and that you have a little
more than 10 inches of space. That sucker is long!!
Also I hope you have the 650W power supply that it
requires to keep it from getting resistance over
heating. I chose the X1600XT for just that reason
I didn't want the Full 24"tall tower case just to hold
the power supply and Card to give it the air space
required to keep it cool. Enjoy! I will.
Woohoo! I'm pumped already, tell me when you get your rig and we can gloat together!

Yeah, the size of the card and PSY is annoying, but expected, and I have decided to remove all the crappy studd I had in my PCI slots anyways (TV card and what not)
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:54 PM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by Luvian:
quote:
Originally posted by JrKASperov:
WRANG. http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frame...humans_see.htm
He's just trying to sell you overpriced video cards.

This quote is especially ridicullous:

Quote:
So what is "Enough fps"? I don't know, because nobody went there so far. Maybe 120fps is enough, maybe you will get headaches after 3 hours.
Yeah right. I can play for 20+ hours straight at 30-40 fps and not get any headache. If it appear fluid it appers fluid, period. Everything else is overkill, like I said.

So the human eye can supposedly see 100 fps, it doesn't change the fact that everything with 30+ appear fluid. So if there was dirt between two frames I'd see it, I guess I'll have to make sure dirt doesn't get in my video card, or it could show up between two frames.
[/QUOTE]It's true. Anything past 30ish and I stop checking. Sure, it's nice to look and see that im at 50-60fps sometimes but I don't notice a problem once I start at the 30 mark and therefore don't think to check my fps beyond this point. I do notice a small fluidic difference when the game goes from the 30 to 50 (30 is fluid but 50+ is like water-fluid), anything beyond this I don't notice.
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Old 03-15-2006, 04:38 PM   #20
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Those prices for the 6800 are a joke. You can get the 6800GT 256mb ram from $129 to $250 tops now..

I own one, and its fluid in every game I play.
(also run 2 gigs of pqi superfast ram) 2.2.2.5
OC my P4 to 3.6Ghz, and it blazes. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I have oc'ed it to 3.8 with no problems too, but don't wanna risk it. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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