Dark Brotherhood bug? +(Game Report)

CerebroDragon · 12-20-2005, 10:46 AM

Hey Elder Scrollers,

I've been quietly going about my second replay of the game, this time opting for a female Dunmer Assasin, the dreadful and unlovely - Cassandrasa B'Sinathos. She's concentrating heavily upon shortblades and marksmanship, but with some sultry speechcraft and sleight of hand aswell. She's often a very bitter and untrusting woman (she murdered a highwayman after he tried to kiss her) and has yet to feel any true sense of belonging or respect among her fellow Dunmer, let alone any of the Great Houses. Aspiring to better herself by following her own personal ethical code of murder has been essential to her growth, the relevence of the factions, merely tools in her ascension to the realisation of her Dunmer heritage.

By about level 30 or so, I became master of the thieves guild. I wasn't too impressed generally with their quests. Too much simple petty stakeout footpaddery half the time, not enough politically oriented themes. However, the Bal-Molagmar quests were definitely the highlight for me as far as the Thieves Guild goes. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cassandrasa also perceived a possible power vaccuum weakness in the Fighter's Guild and decided to make the most of it by joining, where she subtly contrived to bypass the simplistic contradiction of interest held by the codebook quest.
It wasn't too long before Sjoring Hard Heart and his followers were dead and Percius Mercius promoted her to Guild Leader. Secretly, Cassandrasa was not content and felt scorn for her pitiful achievements thus far, a contempt which couldn't help but poison her interactions with people of Vvardenfell, Ordinators especially. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Now I reached a crossroads as far as roleplaying was concerned, so I followed the main quest for a bit and thought a little more about her possible direction, considering her nocturnal potentiality for vampirism and other murder oriented quests (non-Morag Tong) which I'd not done before.

After getting attacked during sleep by the Dark Brotherhood, I decided to try to make an early journey to Mournhold to either rid their existence from Vvardenfell, or join their cause somehow if it were possible and goadingly attractive enough.

This gets me to the crux of my current problem! A nasty dialogue bug it seems.
After arriving in Mournhold, I hired a mercenary and got into the bazaar sewers
tracked down and killed a good dozen Brotherhood schmucks, then encountered one of the higher leaders (Draden Valen?) whose dialogue wouldn't engage.
He attacks initially with a bow and is quite tough, but when I finally kill him his dialogue then tries to engage and continually floods the window, heavily chunking the pc in the process. (He spouts something like "You dare to enter the lair of the dark brotherhood? or something like that)

Any idea what could be wrong? I've got a normal non-GotY version of Morrowind installed with Tribunal and Bloodmoon, each installed at different moments (not from the beginning) but with the latest Tribunal and Bloodmoon patches.

I don't think its that important in the greater scheme of things if this quest is broken, but all the same, getting it to work would be nice. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Any ideas on the future direction of Cassandrasa would be appreciated and taken into consideration too.

I'm currently thinking something anti-imperialist in nature, still with her lonely emphasis on delivering death...perhaps subverting her early Thieves Guild roots by joining House Hlaalu...perhaps the mocking tone of the Telvanni will catch her imagination. Only time will tell!

Cheers,
CD

[ 12-20-2005, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: CerebroDragon ]

Telwyn · 12-20-2005, 02:17 PM

I had this problem as well but I didn't have the patches installed. When I did install them, everything worked fine. If you already have all the latest patches I'm not sure why it isn't working. I know in the release notes for the bloodmoon patch (if you have tribunal installed) it does mention that this problem is fixed.

Seraph · 12-20-2005, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Any idea what could be wrong? I've got a normal non-GotY version of Morrowind installed with Tribunal and Bloodmoon, each installed at different moments (not from the beginning) but with the latest Tribunal and Bloodmoon patches.

What order were they installed in?
You should install Morrowind, then Tribunal, then Bloodmoon, then the Bloodmoon patch.

IIRC the problem you are describing is corrected by the Bloodmoon patch.

[ 12-20-2005, 05:32 PM: Message edited by: Seraph ]

CerebroDragon · 12-21-2005, 12:20 PM

Your memory serves you well Seraph, so cheers to you and Telwyn for confirmation of the problem cause.

As it turned out, I'd downloaded the patch just last week but hadn't actualliy installed it yet...it was sitting waiting in the morrowind directory! In my great fever of playing the game, I'd just forgotten about it.

Seems a little odd though that a Bloodmoon patch is used to fix a Tribunal problem. But anyway, I'm just glad I can continue playing unfazed!

I've decided to join the Morag Tong, slightly unwillingly since I've done most of it before, but remembering the huge Mephala thread Quest which I didn't complete last time, convinced me to give it another go.

Seraph · 12-21-2005, 05:20 PM

The problem your describing only occurs if you install bloodmoon on top of tribunal. So it's not that odd that the bloodmoon patch corrects it.

12-20-2005, 10:46 AM	#1
CerebroDragon Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: March 2, 2003 Location: Ballarat, Australia. Age: 46 Posts: 878	Hey Elder Scrollers, I've been quietly going about my second replay of the game, this time opting for a female Dunmer Assasin, the dreadful and unlovely - Cassandrasa B'Sinathos. She's concentrating heavily upon shortblades and marksmanship, but with some sultry speechcraft and sleight of hand aswell. She's often a very bitter and untrusting woman (she murdered a highwayman after he tried to kiss her) and has yet to feel any true sense of belonging or respect among her fellow Dunmer, let alone any of the Great Houses. Aspiring to better herself by following her own personal ethical code of murder has been essential to her growth, the relevence of the factions, merely tools in her ascension to the realisation of her Dunmer heritage. By about level 30 or so, I became master of the thieves guild. I wasn't too impressed generally with their quests. Too much simple petty stakeout footpaddery half the time, not enough politically oriented themes. However, the Bal-Molagmar quests were definitely the highlight for me as far as the Thieves Guild goes. [img]smile.gif[/img] Cassandrasa also perceived a possible power vaccuum weakness in the Fighter's Guild and decided to make the most of it by joining, where she subtly contrived to bypass the simplistic contradiction of interest held by the codebook quest. It wasn't too long before Sjoring Hard Heart and his followers were dead and Percius Mercius promoted her to Guild Leader. Secretly, Cassandrasa was not content and felt scorn for her pitiful achievements thus far, a contempt which couldn't help but poison her interactions with people of Vvardenfell, Ordinators especially. [img]smile.gif[/img] Now I reached a crossroads as far as roleplaying was concerned, so I followed the main quest for a bit and thought a little more about her possible direction, considering her nocturnal potentiality for vampirism and other murder oriented quests (non-Morag Tong) which I'd not done before. After getting attacked during sleep by the Dark Brotherhood, I decided to try to make an early journey to Mournhold to either rid their existence from Vvardenfell, or join their cause somehow if it were possible and goadingly attractive enough. This gets me to the crux of my current problem! A nasty dialogue bug it seems. After arriving in Mournhold, I hired a mercenary and got into the bazaar sewers tracked down and killed a good dozen Brotherhood schmucks, then encountered one of the higher leaders (Draden Valen?) whose dialogue wouldn't engage. He attacks initially with a bow and is quite tough, but when I finally kill him his dialogue then tries to engage and continually floods the window, heavily chunking the pc in the process. (He spouts something like "You dare to enter the lair of the dark brotherhood? or something like that) Any idea what could be wrong? I've got a normal non-GotY version of Morrowind installed with Tribunal and Bloodmoon, each installed at different moments (not from the beginning) but with the latest Tribunal and Bloodmoon patches. I don't think its that important in the greater scheme of things if this quest is broken, but all the same, getting it to work would be nice. [img]smile.gif[/img] Any ideas on the future direction of Cassandrasa would be appreciated and taken into consideration too. I'm currently thinking something anti-imperialist in nature, still with her lonely emphasis on delivering death...perhaps subverting her early Thieves Guild roots by joining House Hlaalu...perhaps the mocking tone of the Telvanni will catch her imagination. Only time will tell! Cheers, CD [ 12-20-2005, 10:53 AM: Message edited by: CerebroDragon ] __________________ Diddledy High, Diddledy Low, Come Brave Blood Sheep, You've a goodly way to go. - Brilhasti Ap Tarj

12-21-2005, 12:20 PM	#4
CerebroDragon Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: March 2, 2003 Location: Ballarat, Australia. Age: 46 Posts: 878	Your memory serves you well Seraph, so cheers to you and Telwyn for confirmation of the problem cause. As it turned out, I'd downloaded the patch just last week but hadn't actualliy installed it yet...it was sitting waiting in the morrowind directory! In my great fever of playing the game, I'd just forgotten about it. Seems a little odd though that a Bloodmoon patch is used to fix a Tribunal problem. But anyway, I'm just glad I can continue playing unfazed! I've decided to join the Morag Tong, slightly unwillingly since I've done most of it before, but remembering the huge Mephala thread Quest which I didn't complete last time, convinced me to give it another go. __________________ Diddledy High, Diddledy Low, Come Brave Blood Sheep, You've a goodly way to go. - Brilhasti Ap Tarj

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12-20-2005, 02:17 PM	#2
Telwyn Dungeon Master Join Date: March 12, 2005 Location: UK Age: 47 Posts: 53	I had this problem as well but I didn't have the patches installed. When I did install them, everything worked fine. If you already have all the latest patches I'm not sure why it isn't working. I know in the release notes for the bloodmoon patch (if you have tribunal installed) it does mention that this problem is fixed.

12-21-2005, 05:20 PM	#5
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	The problem your describing only occurs if you install bloodmoon on top of tribunal. So it's not that odd that the bloodmoon patch corrects it.

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