It's so illogical, I wanna puke!

[wcip]Angel · 05-21-2002, 02:12 PM

Ok. I am now level 12 (roughly) and I've gathered some pretty sweet (costly) items. Around 3-4 items, totalling on about 60.000 which is kinda cool. No dealer has ever had that much gold, but when I arrived in Ghostwater (or whatever the town is called) I found a trader who had some pretty decent stuff (armour etc) that was expensive.. I figured: I could finally get my moneys worth my exchanging, say my 40.000$ sword with a bunch of stuff I needed (armour).. So I went back to belmora, into the fighter's guild where I had stored my items... I took them out.. and guess what. My guild attacked me, and I got a message on the screen saying I was kicked out of the guild.

That's insane!! They were MY items.

What do I do? I don't want to break off with my guild, but I need those items.. I had some limeware in there as well which I stole from a ship in Ebonyheart. (or whatever the town is called, outside Vivee) Reason I didn't deliver it and end the quest, was because I couldn't find the person who needed the limeware..

1. How do I get my items without alienating my guild?
2. Where do I deliver the limeware?
3. Who was in charge of AI when they made this game?
4. Is it possible to crucify this person?

Thank you.

Case00 · 05-21-2002, 02:18 PM

Can you sneak well? You can always go into stealth mode and steal your items back. Not really the best solution, but it's better then nothing.

[wcip]Angel · 05-21-2002, 03:49 PM

Hmm.. I'm a barbarian orc born in the sign of the fighter.. sneaking is not my strong-suit [img]smile.gif[/img]

I guess I could find a trainer, and spend half of my fortune maxing out my sneaking.. but.. arg!! I'm a capitalist, I don't want to blow money on crap.

Case00 · 05-21-2002, 03:51 PM

Buy a chameleon potion. That should boost your sneak up enough to where you can get away with it.

[ 05-21-2002, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: Case00 ]

[wcip]Angel · 05-21-2002, 03:53 PM

Thanks for the advice.. you don't happen to know why this is happening? I spoke to a friend, and it seems ebony items are illegal. One of my items is an ebony helm worth 15.000.. could that be a reason? ..

Is sneaking a passive skill or an active? I press the mouse button, monsters die. I talk to people, I get quests. This is what I know about Morrowind.. I don't know anything about skills. I just kill stuff and talk to people.. do you have to do something in order to sneak, or is it enough to NOT run ?

Loredena · 05-21-2002, 04:00 PM

I can give you an idea as to why. All containers have the possibility of an 'owner' flag, which affects anything within. Many sitting out on the street have no owner, but most within a building DO. If you put something in an 'owned' container, it picks up that ownership. Your best bet is to pile stuff up on a table, or even the strider platform, or download a house mod. If you take over a house you can store stuff within without worrying about someone calling the cops, but if you DO get stopped by a guard with a bounty anything that got reflagged as owned will be confiscated as stolen property.

vesselle · 05-21-2002, 04:06 PM

you have to actually sneak, love.

if you haven't remapped your keys, you gotta press L Ctrl/W(forward) and hang in the shadows. if you are successfully sneaking, and NO one sees you, then you will have a special new icon in the lower left of your screen.

it will flash if someone glimpses you, and disappear altogether if you are spotted and someone is staring right at you.

btw: even with an accomplished thief like my topless assassin

i find myself getting spotted alla time. it turns out that sometimes i discover other "sneaking" thieves lurking around. i can see their shadows flick around on the ground when i'm in "sneak" mode.

so, there you are. hope it helps.

V***V

[img]graemlins/sadcrying4.gif[/img]

[wcip]Angel · 05-21-2002, 04:07 PM

The funny thing is.. I figured I could steal the stuff, and just pay a fine.. but that was out of the question.. the guards ran towards me with the intent to kill.. I wasn't allowed to explain myself/pay a fine/go to jail.. silly.

[wcip]Angel · 05-21-2002, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vesselle:
[QB]you have to actually sneak, love.

Of course it helps, and I appreciate it.

On a different note:

Either this board is very appreciative of homosexual relations between posters, or you are under the impression that I am a girl..

"Angel".. as in Buffy's Angel.. [img]smile.gif[/img]

theifprowess · 05-21-2002, 04:10 PM

limeware bowl goes to the black guy in the imperial cult behind the ebonheart castle. or hes the first guy you run into when you enter the cult building

05-21-2002, 04:06 PM	#7
vesselle Hathor Join Date: April 6, 2001 Location: the desert Posts: 2,296	you have to actually sneak, love. if you haven't remapped your keys, you gotta press L Ctrl/W(forward) and hang in the shadows. if you are successfully sneaking, and NO one sees you, then you will have a special new icon in the lower left of your screen. it will flash if someone glimpses you, and disappear altogether if you are spotted and someone is staring right at you. btw: even with an accomplished thief like my topless assassin i find myself getting spotted alla time. it turns out that sometimes i discover other "sneaking" thieves lurking around. i can see their shadows flick around on the ground when i'm in "sneak" mode. so, there you are. hope it helps. V***V [img]graemlins/sadcrying4.gif[/img] __________________ my best friend is a junkie. what does your best friend do?

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05-21-2002, 02:12 PM	#1
[wcip]Angel Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 23, 2002 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 305	Ok. I am now level 12 (roughly) and I've gathered some pretty sweet (costly) items. Around 3-4 items, totalling on about 60.000 which is kinda cool. No dealer has ever had that much gold, but when I arrived in Ghostwater (or whatever the town is called) I found a trader who had some pretty decent stuff (armour etc) that was expensive.. I figured: I could finally get my moneys worth my exchanging, say my 40.000$ sword with a bunch of stuff I needed (armour).. So I went back to belmora, into the fighter's guild where I had stored my items... I took them out.. and guess what. My guild attacked me, and I got a message on the screen saying I was kicked out of the guild. That's insane!! They were MY items. What do I do? I don't want to break off with my guild, but I need those items.. I had some limeware in there as well which I stole from a ship in Ebonyheart. (or whatever the town is called, outside Vivee) Reason I didn't deliver it and end the quest, was because I couldn't find the person who needed the limeware.. 1. How do I get my items without alienating my guild? 2. Where do I deliver the limeware? 3. Who was in charge of AI when they made this game? 4. Is it possible to crucify this person? Thank you.

05-21-2002, 02:18 PM	#2
Case00 Manshoon Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Miami, Fl USA Posts: 193	Can you sneak well? You can always go into stealth mode and steal your items back. Not really the best solution, but it's better then nothing.

05-21-2002, 03:49 PM	#3
[wcip]Angel Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 23, 2002 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 305	Hmm.. I'm a barbarian orc born in the sign of the fighter.. sneaking is not my strong-suit [img]smile.gif[/img] I guess I could find a trainer, and spend half of my fortune maxing out my sneaking.. but.. arg!! I'm a capitalist, I don't want to blow money on crap.

05-21-2002, 03:51 PM	#4
Case00 Manshoon Join Date: May 23, 2001 Location: Miami, Fl USA Posts: 193	Buy a chameleon potion. That should boost your sneak up enough to where you can get away with it. [ 05-21-2002, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: Case00 ]

05-21-2002, 03:53 PM	#5
[wcip]Angel Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 23, 2002 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 305	Thanks for the advice.. you don't happen to know why this is happening? I spoke to a friend, and it seems ebony items are illegal. One of my items is an ebony helm worth 15.000.. could that be a reason? .. Is sneaking a passive skill or an active? I press the mouse button, monsters die. I talk to people, I get quests. This is what I know about Morrowind.. I don't know anything about skills. I just kill stuff and talk to people.. do you have to do something in order to sneak, or is it enough to NOT run ?

05-21-2002, 04:00 PM	#6
Loredena Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: March 6, 2002 Location: Chicago US Posts: 16	I can give you an idea as to why. All containers have the possibility of an 'owner' flag, which affects anything within. Many sitting out on the street have no owner, but most within a building DO. If you put something in an 'owned' container, it picks up that ownership. Your best bet is to pile stuff up on a table, or even the strider platform, or download a house mod. If you take over a house you can store stuff within without worrying about someone calling the cops, but if you DO get stopped by a guard with a bounty anything that got reflagged as owned will be confiscated as stolen property.

05-21-2002, 04:07 PM	#8
[wcip]Angel Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 23, 2002 Location: Stavanger, Norway Posts: 305	The funny thing is.. I figured I could steal the stuff, and just pay a fine.. but that was out of the question.. the guards ran towards me with the intent to kill.. I wasn't allowed to explain myself/pay a fine/go to jail.. silly.

05-21-2002, 04:10 PM	#10
theifprowess Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: March 9, 2002 Location: california Posts: 613	limeware bowl goes to the black guy in the imperial cult behind the ebonheart castle. or hes the first guy you run into when you enter the cult building

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