I, Robot

[Morgeruat]

Originally posted by Link: Epona; I thought they never implied they were going to adapt the book into a movie. If I understand them (mainly Will Smith and the director, can't remember his name) correctly they were just adapting Aasimov's idea of the three rules about robotics rather than using his book "I, Robot".

so they essentially did the same thing that "catwoman" did... ugh

[uss]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Argh! Stop believing in the trailers! The trailers are misleading! I, Robot is not a brainless action flick!

Really? It looks to me like everybody in this thread who has seen it say otherwise. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Originally posted by DrowArchmage: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: *backs away from DrowArchmage* Haven't seen it. Don't want to other than as a fan of cheesy action films. From the trailers it looks like the moral of the film is entirely counter to everything Asimov thought about robots, making me wonder who in their right mind from his estate gave the go ahead to this film. I Robot is a series of short stories, most of which follow the pattern of one man/woman being sceptical of the Three Laws and clutching at straws to back them up. The conclusion of almost all of his stories is that that person is hopelessly naive and is eventually shown the error of his ways. In other words the Will Smith character who spends the movie being suspicious would, if Asimov had had anything to do with the film, have been converted by the end - not proved correct. Its a classic example of the Frankenstein complex Asimov wrote about, and it seems supremely ironic that this is one of the best examples of it I can find and its in a movie apparently "based" on one of his books... Too much bile... can't continue...

alright,is everyone here on crack? </font>[/QUOTE]What do you mean? Please explain.

[ 08-09-2004, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: uss ]

[Timber Loftis]

AI was not about robots turning on their creators. It was the reverse.

If you know the Matrix, you know that it too was about a genocide of the Robots, resulting in the birth of the nation "01" in the Middle East. The computers/robots of 01 only attacked back after the civilized nations of the world first attacked them (they were jealous of the economic strength and market control of 01).

Again, I liked the movie. Coulda done without the product placement, but couldn't they all? I, Robot was a wonderfully fitting title if you think about the statement itself.

Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. So I guess I just scoff at all your pretensions. I liked Aasimov's work, to the extent I read it (I did not read I,Robot). But, I gotta say I never enjoyed 2 hours of reading his books as much as I enjoyed this 2 hour movie.

I mean, he was a good sci fi author, but let's not ignore facts -- it's not like sci fi authors are ever gonna go in the Ivory Tower halls alongside Shakespeare, folks. For those of us who have enough geek proclivities to begin with, sci fi sometimes (rarely) coughs up an author that can produce works that are decent and worth reading. That's Aasimov. He's no Hemmingway, so let's not act like his works are some sacred cow.

[DrowArchmage]

your all saying bad things about this movie,and i liked it, its a figure of speech uss. what country are you from? Iceland?

[DrowArchmage]

Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: *backs away from DrowArchmage* Haven't seen it. Don't want to other than as a fan of cheesy action films. From the trailers it looks like the moral of the film is entirely counter to everything Asimov thought about robots, making me wonder who in their right mind from his estate gave the go ahead to this film. I Robot is a series of short stories, most of which follow the pattern of one man/woman being sceptical of the Three Laws and clutching at straws to back them up. The conclusion of almost all of his stories is that that person is hopelessly naive and is eventually shown the error of his ways. In other words the Will Smith character who spends the movie being suspicious would, if Asimov had had anything to do with the film, have been converted by the end - not proved correct. Its a classic example of the Frankenstein complex Asimov wrote about, and it seems supremely ironic that this is one of the best examples of it I can find and its in a movie apparently "based" on one of his books... Too much bile... can't continue...

CHEESY!?!?! Your lucky i cant materialize myself or your danm stars would be getting a ass whiping right now {Just playin with ya,Not} [img]graemlins/monster1.gif[/img]

[Gxc]

I was thinking about picking this up for dvd.

[uss]

Originally posted by DrowArchmage: your all saying bad things about this movie,and i liked it, its a figure of speech uss. what country are you from? Iceland?

Oh, so you were just saying that you liked the movie? That "Alright,is everyone here on crack?" really seemed like you were saying that his arguments are false. I know that it's a figure of speech and means disagreement but I thought you explain what you specifically meant.

Did you guess I'm from Iceland because (you thought) I didn't understand the figure of speech or because of my signature? As is written on my profile, I'm from Estonia and the sig is in Japanese.

[shamrock_uk]

Just chill DrowArchmage...

I liked the film, I found it enjoyable, although I haven't read the book to compare it against. A couple of the twists I thought were excellent and I completely failed to spot coming. The action sequences were overdone and unrealistic in my opionion (especially the car one), but you must expect that with Will Smith as the lead. But on the whole it didn't detract from what was an enjoyable film. Recommended.

[ 10-20-2004, 08:48 AM: Message edited by: shamrock_uk ]

[Oblivion437]

Indisputably, having read the book, knowing how the movie turns out, I'm quite disappointed.

The way they make "I, Robot" the movie, from I, Robot the book is shameful. It's reflective of a very bad set of choices on the part of bad script writers and a director who showed so much promise but wasn't given enough hand to work the sculpture this time around.

Another film by the director, you may have seen, is the highly original and grandly interesting Dark City, a thoroughly mind bending film of surrealistic qualities. He had a much freer set of reigns that run around, and the results were, to say the least, impressive.

[pritchke]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Just watched it tonight and I absolutely enjoyed it. [img]smile.gif[/img] Spoilers ~ ~ ~ ~ Spooner provided action and comedy, while Sonny provided poingancy and emotion to the film. The main female lead however... was merely a flower vase, and acted more as a catalyst for the better scenes in the movie than as a scene maker herself. I was so happy when it was revealed that Sonny was alive. [img]smile.gif[/img]

<font face="Verdana" size="3" color="#00FF00">My estimates exactly. I didn't go see this movie in theaters because it was a Will Smith movie and I am not a big fan of his movies. However I was impressed!!! This is my favorite film by Smith to date. Classic sci-fi theme despite the critics some of the technology in 2035 may very much like that. I believe I may have read the book, or saw a similar movie because I already knew the three laws of robotics, and new how logically the robots could interprete those laws differently than thay were meant to be. I am pretty sure this technology as been done before in another movie but my mind is foggy. Implemented well in this movie though.

While the Frankenstein theme as been done to death, this was a minor one, in the sense that man uses technology and that technology decides that in order to protect man it needs to protect man from himself. As well the AI evolving and warping the rules to achieve the goal it was created for, is another theme that could be studied more and as been done before, think sentinels in X-men comics. Also I caught a few smaller themes like you can't judge a book by its cover from the bionic arm, to Sonny's distict personality. If you only saw this as another Frankenstein, Jurassic Park movie you have only taken away a little piece of what the movie offered.
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[ 12-21-2004, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]