Thieves can't use crossbows? - Page 2

SixOfSpades · 06-09-2006, 05:03 PM

So Iron Greasel is playing with Icewind Gate installed or something? In BG1 without Tutu? That's just too wierd.

Kyrvias · 06-09-2006, 08:09 PM

Quite so.

I remember thieves not being able to use crossbows in BG I at one time... a bug maybe? IcewindDale was installed at the same time, so, eh, I don't know.

Iron Greasel · 06-10-2006, 06:51 AM

I just shadowkept myself all the crossbows of the game, and my thieves can't use any of them. Fighters of my party have no problems, nor does Montaron the fighter/thief, but when either Protagonist or Imoen attempts to equip one, the game says that they "Can not use item". If I wear a buckler, the game still says that I can't use it. Nothing about "Shield equipped".

SixOfSpades · 06-10-2006, 03:31 PM

Well, it looks to me like you can either use IEEP (or some other item editor) to correct the Usability flags on those Crossbows, or just accept the fact that your game is tweaked.

Kyrvias · 06-10-2006, 03:38 PM

Do you, in fact, have IWD installed currently?

Iron Greasel · 06-11-2006, 05:08 AM

No IWD.

I guess I'll just use normal short bows.

Kyrvias · 06-11-2006, 12:56 PM

Weird. No bolts of polymorphing for you! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Echon · 06-15-2006, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixOfSpades:Echon, what smokest thou? Of course they can, they just can't use Heavy crossbows. My TN Male Human Thief has no problem with them at all, and yes this is BG1. I'm thinking there must be a bug in the usability flags somewhere.

Thieves may also use light crossbows in my game, but this is a bug. If you have a look at Player's Handbook the description of the thief class states that they can use hand crossbows, which unfortunately are not included in these games, and thus not use heavy and light crossbows. The description of the missile weapons proficiency also says that thieves are limited to slings and darts, and at the bottom of the description of the light crossbow you will find thieves in the list of classes which cannot use the weapon.

-Echon

Kyrvias · 06-16-2006, 02:15 PM

Fancy. So, in actuality, thieves being able to use crossbows is the bug. Odd.

SixOfSpades · 06-17-2006, 12:15 AM

A bug that was replicated constantly in every version of the game. Yeah.

If, indeed, Thieves were ever supposed to be restricted from Light Crossbows at all, BioWare decided to allow them, because Pistol Crossbows were not an option, and they wanted to give Thieves some Crossbow capability.

06-09-2006, 05:03 PM	#11
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	So Iron Greasel is playing with Icewind Gate installed or something? In BG1 without Tutu? That's just too wierd. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

06-10-2006, 06:51 AM	#13
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	I just shadowkept myself all the crossbows of the game, and my thieves can't use any of them. Fighters of my party have no problems, nor does Montaron the fighter/thief, but when either Protagonist or Imoen attempts to equip one, the game says that they "Can not use item". If I wear a buckler, the game still says that I can't use it. Nothing about "Shield equipped". __________________

06-10-2006, 03:31 PM	#14
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	Well, it looks to me like you can either use IEEP (or some other item editor) to correct the Usability flags on those Crossbows, or just accept the fact that your game is tweaked. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

06-11-2006, 05:08 AM	#16
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 1,701	No IWD. I guess I'll just use normal short bows. __________________

06-17-2006, 12:15 AM	#20
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 47 Posts: 6,901	A bug that was replicated constantly in every version of the game. Yeah. If, indeed, Thieves were ever supposed to be restricted from Light Crossbows at all, BioWare decided to allow them, because Pistol Crossbows were not an option, and they wanted to give Thieves some Crossbow capability. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

06-09-2006, 08:09 PM	#12
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Quite so. I remember thieves not being able to use crossbows in BG I at one time... a bug maybe? IcewindDale was installed at the same time, so, eh, I don't know.

06-10-2006, 03:38 PM	#15
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Do you, in fact, have IWD installed currently?

06-11-2006, 12:56 PM	#17
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Weird. No bolts of polymorphing for you! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

06-16-2006, 02:15 PM	#19
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Fancy. So, in actuality, thieves being able to use crossbows is the bug. Odd.

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