mages suck

[ElfBane]

Originally posted by bgf: And since BG is a low-level affair, that handy SLEEP spell can turn the tide in several encounters - since low level monsters have poor saves.

The 'Sleep' spell might actually be the best offensive spell of the first 4 chapters.

[ElfBane]

Originally posted by thecarrotdude: mages suck, in this game mages r no good, they die like in 2 sec against a character with a bow and arrows, is there anyone who disagrees????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????

Go tell that to the dude in Baldur's Gate that sets the Battle Horrors on you!

[ZFR]

well, i think for many people the first battle which causes real trouble is their first encounter with a mage (FAI).

[Neo the Warrior Cat]

Yeah.

But if you've been through it before, you know what to do and it's no longer a hassle.

[Lord]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: quote: Originally posted by Lord: ~~ melf's acid arrows (not a great spell in BG2, ~~

Not true. [/QUOTE]Enlighten me please . I'm not a huge fan of MAA in BG2 even though I always have a mage memorize at least 1 of them. It can be useful against trolls, of course, but I'm much more content with spells such as flame arrow (different spell level, of course, but I favor it over MAA by a considerable margin).

Yes, bows-and-arrows can take out and disrupt mages very well. Not sure why, but my favorite mage battle is in the bandit camp. Just something about the mood of the fight that I like...

[Dundee Slaytern]

1) Damage Type

Name the number of creatures resistant to fire. Now try naming even a twentieth of that number that are resistant to acid.

2) Damage Amount

Magic Missile deals 10-25 damage at Lvl-20. Flame Arrow deals 20-120 damage at Lvl-20. Melf's Acid Arrow deals 14-56 damage at Lvl-20. So all in all, the damage scaling is there.

I do not use MAA to kill Trolls... that is overkill. I use MAA to punch a hole in the enemy's life. For example, Pontifex in the Ritual Mod? He dropped dead from 8 castings of MAA. Try doing that with 8 Flame Arrows.

Again the scenerio of, "Oooo! I deal a lot of damage with this spell, but damnit to heck, the enemy has 50-127% resistance to its' damage type."

[SixOfSpades]

Originally posted by ZFR: well, i think for many people the first battle which causes real trouble is their first encounter with a mage (FAI).

That's only because Tarnesh's Magic Missile is hacked to be of a higher level. He casts 1 1st-level spell and 2 2nd-level spells at you, suggesting that he's only Level 3 or 4, and his feeble hitpoints back this up. So when he casts Magic Missile, there should only be 1 or 2 missiles--but instead there are FIVE, which, at your level, will instantly kill any party member, no matter what (unless the otherwise-useless Shield spell actually does something).

[Lavindathar]

Originally posted by SixOfSpades: quote: Originally posted by ZFR: well, i think for many people the first battle which causes real trouble is their first encounter with a mage (FAI).

That's only because Tarnesh's Magic Missile is hacked to be of a higher level. He casts 1 1st-level spell and 2 2nd-level spells at you, suggesting that he's only Level 3 or 4, and his feeble hitpoints back this up. So when he casts Magic Missile, there should only be 1 or 2 missiles--but instead there are FIVE, which, at your level, will instantly kill any party member, no matter what (unless the otherwise-useless Shield spell actually does something). [/QUOTE]I've always wondered about this!

Thankyou for actually confirming that!

[Kyrvias]

I always choose shield as one of my first spells, just for that encounter.