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Old 04-06-2001, 10:15 AM   #21
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Hmm, well I think that the worst one I have read is ehm, hmm, terry Brooks so far, but however I think that he is far from the worst author there is.
Tolkien, you are almost executed if you say something bad about him, but I´ll do so anyway
Toliens books are actually crap except from Lord of the Rings. they make little sense and have a noncommital tone to them, i wont go into Hobbit since I have only read that one in swedish and yolkien had the good sense to refuse to give Lord of the Rings to a publisher for swedish if he didn´t get another translator..
Well, ok, to be fair, he is an excellent writer, though he is a very uneven storyteller..

Michael Moorcook and the books about Elric are well, not great but entertaining but you are easuily boored after awhile, nothing new..

OK, Terry sorry, you came out at the bottom of this!

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Old 04-09-2001, 08:23 AM   #22
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Terry Goodkind , his writing style doesn't appeal to me and I find his plots terribly derivative as well.

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Old 04-09-2001, 09:06 PM   #23
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Hi Moiraine!

I'm sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy the Elric of Melinbone (sp.?) saga. I found that series held my rapt attention. .
An old chat-room friend of mine was quite passionate about the Moorcock novels and Melnibone in particular. So I tried. I REALLY tried because I didn't want to upset him, but, ye gods! I have never read such boring (expletive deleted, by me) in my life - and I've read some pretty awful stuff!


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Old 04-09-2001, 09:11 PM   #24
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It wasn't the style of his books, I had just read Of Mice and Men so even Roger Red Hat would of been a master piece in my eyes. It was the part when the trolls turned to stone, come on how the hell did they make it if the turn to stone in sun light!, probably the worse speices ideal in the world ever.


Tolkien, however, did not create trolls, nor the idea of their turning to stone in sunlight: it is a very old mythos. And anyway, loads of species are nocturnal and survive very nicely, thank you, lol! Darkness is, after all, conducive to... procreation



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Old 04-09-2001, 10:06 PM   #25
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Tolkien, however, did not create trolls, nor the idea of their turning to stone in sunlight: it is a very old mythos. And anyway, loads of species are nocturnal and survive very nicely, thank you, lol! Darkness is, after all, conducive to... procreation

Did you read my repile to the last person to tell me it was mythology, I post it again just for you

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<font size=4> Mythology huh..... Heck it still a dum thing it almost as bad as elves being short things with pointed hats and beards, IT A GNOME!!!!- sorry but these thing bug me, a creature is called an elf in one mythology but is something completely different in another. Some Mytholoyg would have trolls being about 4ft high and living under bridges but did he include that I don't think so. </font>
AND I'm not complain that they live at night but that they turn to stone, come on what freaking biological fuction would that serve? What birare elvolution caused that, it dumb just plain dumb!



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Old 04-10-2001, 09:47 AM   #26
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Did you read my repile to the last person to tell me it was mythology, I post it again just for you

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<font size=4> Mythology huh..... Heck it still a dum thing it almost as bad as elves being short things with pointed hats and beards, IT A GNOME!!!!- sorry but these thing bug me, a creature is called an elf in one mythology but is something completely different in another. Some Mytholoyg would have trolls being about 4ft high and living under bridges but did he include that I don't think so. </font>
AND I'm not complain that they live at night but that they turn to stone, come on what freaking biological fuction would that serve? What birare elvolution caused that, it dumb just plain dumb!


ROFL! No, I didn't actually read that post! You have a very good point - but it sure would make them careful, lol! Unlikely to be caught out by Hobbit ruses, no matter how stupid they may be!
BUT... just to offer mythology an excuse - many species not noted for brain power have very exclusive environs in which they can survive, and die pretty fast if they leave it: also not conducive to survival - but survive they do.
Is it dumb-a$$ of the creatures who survive in the almost boiling waters around volcanic vents in the sea bed (they die in even slightly cooler water), or is it smart of nature to utilize every niche available?
Trolls turning to stone in daylight is only another way of dying outside their niche, after all!
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Old 04-10-2001, 06:20 PM   #27
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Fljotsdale first I like to say sorry for acting like a jackasss with my last post, next like to say that I think it very smart of nature to incompass every nitch in the world and as for the creatures around 'black smokers' they didn't grow from others to live there but we probalby grew from them.
As for the trolls, I just fail to understand how they can turn to stone at all, if it is a mutaion of nature then there must of once been those that don't, if they were to be sensetive to sun light and, I don't know burn when exsposed to sun light ie blister and crap, that I could understand.
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Old 04-10-2001, 06:21 PM   #28
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Well I liked everything so far

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Old 04-10-2001, 08:51 PM   #29
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Fljotsdale first I like to say sorry for acting like a jackasss with my last post, next like to say that I think it very smart of nature to incompass every nitch in the world and as for the creatures around 'black smokers' they didn't grow from others to live there but we probalby grew from them.
As for the trolls, I just fail to understand how they can turn to stone at all, if it is a mutaion of nature then there must of once been those that don't, if they were to be sensetive to sun light and, I don't know burn when exsposed to sun light ie blister and crap, that I could understand.
No need for apologies, Gabriel!
As as for trolls, hey! I don't know either, but I guess the Hobbit and the Dwarves didn't care how they died, just so long as they were dead, lol! And hell, we're talkin' Fantasy here, And in Fantasy you even get to kill things that are ALREADY DEAD! Ghosts, for example.
Somebody tell me how it is possible to kill a ghost and watch the blood squirt out of it.... Me, I think trolls turning to stone makes no less sense! But we all enjoy killing our impossible monsters - or reading about 'em being killed, anyway, lol!
As the Queen said in 'Alice' - "sometimes I believe seven (or whatever the number was) impossible things before breakfast."

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Old 04-30-2001, 07:46 AM   #30
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Why do you all have a problem with Trolls and sunlight?
Nobody questions Vampires die in sunlight.....
do they...?

Besides a lot of mythological creatures have strange weakness, like elves (In some myths) are meant to be killed by the touch of iron.
Little of it makes much sense when you think about it.
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