Immunity: Mind Affecting Spells

Marathon · 05-10-2006, 09:21 AM

Hey guys - does anyone have a list of what falls under the category of mind affecting spells? I assume fear and confusion, but what else? I am hoping paralyze falls under this, but I don't think it does.

[ 05-10-2006, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Marathon ]

Darkman · 05-10-2006, 09:58 PM

Good question. I wanted to know the answer to this as well so I made a test character (a L20 wizard) and tried casting just about every spell at an NPC wearing a belt of Immunity: Mind Effects. Here are the results:

Spells that the NPC was immune to:
Daze, Charm, Color Spray, Scare, Sleep, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, Confusion, Hold Person, Fear, Feeblemind, Dominate Person, Hold Monster, Mind Fog, Dominate Monster, Power Word: Stun, Weird, as well as the paralysis effects of Grease, Web, & the Bigby's spells.

So, pretty much most of the Enchantment & Illusion spells and anything dealing with fear, daze, sleep, stun, paralyze, or direct attacks on the mind, are all countered by Immunity: Mind Effects.

robertthebard · 05-11-2006, 12:02 AM

That can be misleading. I don't think it will confer immunity to paralysis from a death attack for example. Grease has no paralysis, it will slow you, and causes a reflex save to falling down(slipping), but immunity to knock down will alleviate that. The same holds true for web, and on it, and grease, freedom will inhibit the movement decreases. I'm not sure, but doesn't Weird require a fort save too, I could be wrong, and am not ready to dig out the book though. Stunning fist should be able to affect you too, since it's supposed to be a fort save now.

Marathon · 05-11-2006, 10:36 AM

Yup - stunning fist no longer is mind effecting as of patch 1.67. Freedom will give immunity to hold person (paralyze) spells as well as web and grease.

The whole mind effecting question came up for me on a low magic world where I found that suit of armor from the original NWN OC - the Broewind (something like that) Family Armor. Has immunity to mind effects, but I have to lower my AC by 1, plus switch out gauntlets of Ogre Strength for Bracers of Dex +4, which lowers my attack and discipline, and I lose the better elemental resistance from the Chromatic Breastplate. Enough creatures use combat feats (disarm, knockdown, and called shot) that this matters. But, my guys a barbarian, and low level shamans can nail him with hold person easily. Sort of a trade off with no right answer - just need to switch it up depending on situation.

Darkman - thanks for the list! Nice work.

[ 05-11-2006, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Marathon ]

05-10-2006, 09:58 PM	#2
Darkman Avatar Join Date: July 11, 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 525	Good question. I wanted to know the answer to this as well so I made a test character (a L20 wizard) and tried casting just about every spell at an NPC wearing a belt of Immunity: Mind Effects. Here are the results: Spells that the NPC was immune to: Daze, Charm, Color Spray, Scare, Sleep, Tasha's Hideous Laughter, Confusion, Hold Person, Fear, Feeblemind, Dominate Person, Hold Monster, Mind Fog, Dominate Monster, Power Word: Stun, Weird, as well as the paralysis effects of Grease, Web, & the Bigby's spells. So, pretty much most of the Enchantment & Illusion spells and anything dealing with fear, daze, sleep, stun, paralyze, or direct attacks on the mind, are all countered by Immunity: Mind Effects. __________________ There more of it there is,<br />The less you see.

05-11-2006, 12:02 AM	#3
robertthebard Xanathar Thieves Guild Join Date: March 17, 2001 Location: Wichita, KS USA Age: 61 Posts: 4,537	That can be misleading. I don't think it will confer immunity to paralysis from a death attack for example. Grease has no paralysis, it will slow you, and causes a reflex save to falling down(slipping), but immunity to knock down will alleviate that. The same holds true for web, and on it, and grease, freedom will inhibit the movement decreases. I'm not sure, but doesn't Weird require a fort save too, I could be wrong, and am not ready to dig out the book though. Stunning fist should be able to affect you too, since it's supposed to be a fort save now. __________________ To those we have lost; May your spirits fly free. Interesting read, one of my blogs.

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05-10-2006, 09:21 AM	#1
Marathon Elminster Join Date: December 10, 2003 Location: OP, KS Age: 51 Posts: 489	Hey guys - does anyone have a list of what falls under the category of mind affecting spells? I assume fear and confusion, but what else? I am hoping paralyze falls under this, but I don't think it does. [ 05-10-2006, 06:03 PM: Message edited by: Marathon ]

05-11-2006, 10:36 AM	#4
Marathon Elminster Join Date: December 10, 2003 Location: OP, KS Age: 51 Posts: 489	Yup - stunning fist no longer is mind effecting as of patch 1.67. Freedom will give immunity to hold person (paralyze) spells as well as web and grease. The whole mind effecting question came up for me on a low magic world where I found that suit of armor from the original NWN OC - the Broewind (something like that) Family Armor. Has immunity to mind effects, but I have to lower my AC by 1, plus switch out gauntlets of Ogre Strength for Bracers of Dex +4, which lowers my attack and discipline, and I lose the better elemental resistance from the Chromatic Breastplate. Enough creatures use combat feats (disarm, knockdown, and called shot) that this matters. But, my guys a barbarian, and low level shamans can nail him with hold person easily. Sort of a trade off with no right answer - just need to switch it up depending on situation. Darkman - thanks for the list! Nice work. [ 05-11-2006, 10:38 AM: Message edited by: Marathon ]

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