No Reload Party...Any suggestions?

[Lord]

I am trying to take a no reload party through the game (not including the expansion). I have an idea on a party, but I think I need some suggestions.
I was originally going to go with just my character, Minsc, and Dynaheir (can't remember how to spell her name [img]redface.gif[/img] ). But after thinking about what I knew from playing before, I came up with:

My character (Fighter)
Minsc: will be my tank as I don't want to put my character in as a tank, plus he is very powerful if you know how to use him.
Imoen: Traps, traps! There are many traps and chests to be opened, and I will need her to do it.
Jaheira: I will need lots of healing, and I remember her being my best option for a healer in the past.
Dynaheir (spelling???): Spell caster. These can be destructive in the game, and I will probably need her skills.

IIRC, you cannot have just Jaheira and in your party...you will also need Khalid in there too. But I also kinda remember that if Khalid dies in the game, Jaheira will still stay with you.
Any suggestions?

[True_Moose]

If you are going to need lots of healing, Jaheira is not preferable to Branwen, Viconia or, best case, Yeslick. Make the PC a fighter/thief, so you can be elven (better for archery), and so that you can hide out of sight if life gets too rough. With the PC a fighter/thief, you can dual Imoen to a mage early, I don't like Dynaheir, and Imoen has huge INT. So that gives us:

PC => Fighter/Thief
Minsc
Imoen (dualled to Conjurer at level 3 or 4)
Yeslick, Branwen or Viconia, preferably Yeslick.

I would also add Kagain, as he is an insane tank. Finally: I would hold on to Jaheira but NOT as primary healer. Why? She's a damn good fighter, hand her the Dagger of Venom and a quality shield, and she can spellcast and fight quite well.

In conclusion:
PC => Fighter/Thief (Light Crossbow of Speed, Longsword +2)
Minsc (Heavy Crossbow of Accuracy, Spider's Bane)
Imoen (Eagle Bow)
Yeslick (Warhammer +2, Sling +1)
Kagain (Throwing Axe +2, Battle Axe +2)
Jaheira (Darts of Wounding/Stunning, Dagger of Venom)

[Lord]

Thanks. IIRC, Branwen was the person who was stoned at the Nashkell Carnival (and no, she did not have 1 too many beers ). Even after playing through BG so many times, I cannot recall the player Kagain. I will try to find him. Please don't spoil his location, but just a hint...can he be found early on in the game? And Yeslick...hmmm, where was that little guy? Could some1 just give me his location? I don't mind be spoiled on that as I'm pretty sure I've run into him many times.

Edit: what is a good level to dual my fighter to a thief?

[ 08-23-2003, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: Lord ]

[True_Moose]

Dualing a fighter to a thief, eh? I would say level 6, but it depends. You'll spend a fair amount of time in thief-only form, but you'll be more powerful later. You can dual earlier if you want more time after dual, or later if you don't mind spending a long time in thief form. Kagain is very easy to find, early. Just go into buildings in cities early on.
Yeslick's [spoilers]
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[TyranyuS]

Hmm I totally disagree with your party but at least have your fighter as berserker.

[Lord]

I decided to take out Kagain as he is evil, and the rest of my part members will be good aligned. So far, this is what I am thinking, although I probably will modify it somewhat:

PC: Fighter, no need to dual to thief.
Minsc: Tank
Imoen: Archer, thief, no need to dual to mage as I figured I will need her to excell in thief as far as possible, especiall since I don't have anything to remove the XP cap.
Uncertain here between Jaheira and Branwen: both are true neutral, but branwen would be the better healer as she is a pure cleric, while Jaheira is fighter/cleric. If I take Yeslick in, then I'll also use Jaheira. If I take Branwen in, I might get some1 else in place of yeslick.
Yeslick: only in if Jaheira joins, cuz he's also not a pure cleric. So having those 2 together could help.
The last think I need is a mage: not Xzar, he's evil. I was thinking Dynaheir still, partly because of Minsc. I can't take in Edwin as he is also evil. Xan was a little weakling, and is very likely to die. And Quale was so annoying that I won't even consider taking him in. I think I'll stick with Dynaheir.

[True_Moose]

Alright, I understand your reasoning. Remember one thing though: you want the most powerful party possible, as you are going for no reloads. Kagain and Edwin are two of the best in their fields, and they will significantly boost the power of your party. But that's still quite a strong party you have. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Lord]

Originally posted by True_Moose: Alright, I understand your reasoning. Remember one thing though: you want the most powerful party possible, as you are going for no reloads. Kagain and Edwin are two of the best in their fields, and they will significantly boost the power of your party. But that's still quite a strong party you have. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Yes, but I've had Xzar get into a fight with my players before when I was running a good party, and Jaheira ended up killing him as I could no longer control those 2. Don't want that happening again .

[True_Moose]

*cough* Ease of Use Happy Party Component *cough*

[InsaneBane]

SPOILER about good and evil in the same party
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Get Minsc and rescue Dynaheir. When both Minsc and Dynaheir is in your party, go and take Edwin into your party (Dynaheir and Edwin will agree on being in the same party as they could watch each other then). Dispose Dynaheir (let her leave while she is alone in a building - or let her die). If your PC has a high CHA (my paladin had 19 (21 with the cloak)) Edwin didn't leave eventhough I had 20 in reputation.

I guess it would also be OK to have Kagain in your good aligned party with a rep of 20. Just as long you have high charisma on your PC.

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Insane

BTW: You need a LOT of HP on all your characters. Edwin has CON 16 (=> best HP bonus for a mage) and Kagain has the highest CON of the NPC's IIRC.

You will also need some way to 'remove' (or better: avoid) charm, fear, paralyze etc. on your characters. I normally use 'the cloak' or dire charm spells. If one of my 'weak' (melee wise) characters ends up charmed, I sometimes let one of my fighters (with high AC) drop his weapons and try to punch the charmed character into his senses [img]smile.gif[/img]