Gorion is suicidal?! - Page 2

Jaradu · 08-24-2003, 10:52 AM

I guess he's just programmed to die. It wouldn't go well for the plot if Gorion accidentally killed the armoured figure.

Pyrenk · 08-24-2003, 04:06 PM

That would be quite a sight...especially the movies ("With the death of Gorion, you yadda yadda"), and the last battle

Lord · 08-24-2003, 05:39 PM

OK, in my new game, this is what I saw happen with Gorion and the A.F:
Gorion casts a bunch of spells, and twice he got hit for 21 damage. After he hit the A.F for 98 damage (it was somewhere between 93 and 98, I think 98), e moved up to him and starts fighting him, where he suddenly just falls down and dies. I remember seeing Melf's Acid Arrows cast at least twice, but I don't remember if Gorion used it, or if it was used on him. If it was used on him, then the poison (well, acid damage) is most definately there.

Azred · 08-24-2003, 09:02 PM

Gorion's death also brings up another ridiculous lack of intelligence common to RPG worlds: characters who have to die for plot reasons will never, ever be resurrected, despite the fact that powerful high-level priests or scrolls/items that raise the dead are available. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img]

Pyrenk · 08-25-2003, 01:59 AM

Just like a certain character in our beloved FF7. USE A FRIGGIN PHOENIX DOWN, CLOUD!

Sythe · 08-25-2003, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Pyrenk:
Just like a certain character in our beloved FF7. USE A FRIGGIN PHOENIX DOWN, CLOUD!

I've beaten that game but it kept freezing till the point it was unplayble. Never got to see the ending.

moiraine sedai · 09-12-2003, 09:43 AM

It was probably because he ran out of flashy spells to use and, seeing as his end was inevitable (come on, mage with dagger versus big armoured guy with sword...) he just died so we didn't have to sit through him trying to stab the AF to death...

Could this be because he is an unkillable character in Candlekeep? That there would be no other way for him to die unless it was in the programming?

I don't know. I should probably quit rambling as well...

Cheers,

Moiraine Sedai

Silversten · 09-13-2003, 10:19 AM

Pyrenk did u say one of your fighters survived gorions first attack when u attack him in candle keep? I have tried for ages to kill gorion and have always died on first spell (once i did over 200 damage first though!)

Myrddin L'argenton · 09-14-2003, 02:46 PM

Gorion is timed to die against the armoured guy for the cliche reason, I did noticed that some of the cliches in the first reference do ring true with BG and BG2 (and were proven false by it as well).

Little Dragon · 09-19-2003, 02:45 PM

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I imported my character in to a mulitiplayer game so my party was pretty powerful I put my main character in a building with the rest of the pary except 1 character and I got he/she (cant remember twas years ago) to attack Gorian who cast magic and guess what? it went straight through all the buildings to find me in the inn and i died instantly. Now my character had just killed Servok and Gorian just killed me yet cant kill Servok.

08-24-2003, 04:06 PM	#12
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 36 Posts: 1,156	That would be quite a sight...especially the movies ("With the death of Gorion, you yadda yadda"), and the last battle __________________

08-24-2003, 05:39 PM	#13
Lord Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: June 3, 2003 Location: New York Age: 40 Posts: 3,302	OK, in my new game, this is what I saw happen with Gorion and the A.F: Gorion casts a bunch of spells, and twice he got hit for 21 damage. After he hit the A.F for 98 damage (it was somewhere between 93 and 98, I think 98), e moved up to him and starts fighting him, where he suddenly just falls down and dies. I remember seeing Melf's Acid Arrows cast at least twice, but I don't remember if Gorion used it, or if it was used on him. If it was used on him, then the poison (well, acid damage) is most definately there. __________________ "You're a thief and a liar." "No, I only lied about being a thief."

08-24-2003, 09:02 PM	#14
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	Gorion's death also brings up another ridiculous lack of intelligence common to RPG worlds: characters who have to die for plot reasons will never, ever be resurrected, despite the fact that powerful high-level priests or scrolls/items that raise the dead are available. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img] __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

08-25-2003, 01:59 AM	#15
Pyrenk Symbol of Cyric Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Old Bethpage, Long Island Age: 36 Posts: 1,156	Just like a certain character in our beloved FF7. USE A FRIGGIN PHOENIX DOWN, CLOUD! __________________

09-12-2003, 09:43 AM	#17
moiraine sedai Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 25, 2003 Location: Tar Valon Age: 40 Posts: 335	It was probably because he ran out of flashy spells to use and, seeing as his end was inevitable (come on, mage with dagger versus big armoured guy with sword...) he just died so we didn't have to sit through him trying to stab the AF to death... Could this be because he is an unkillable character in Candlekeep? That there would be no other way for him to die unless it was in the programming? I don't know. I should probably quit rambling as well... Cheers, Moiraine Sedai __________________ ~The wheel weaves as the wheel wills~

08-24-2003, 10:52 AM	#11
Jaradu Silver Dragon Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: Shrewsbury, England Age: 34 Posts: 1,635	I guess he's just programmed to die. It wouldn't go well for the plot if Gorion accidentally killed the armoured figure.

09-13-2003, 10:19 AM	#18
Silversten Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 14, 2003 Location: Perth, Australia Age: 38 Posts: 32	Pyrenk did u say one of your fighters survived gorions first attack when u attack him in candle keep? I have tried for ages to kill gorion and have always died on first spell (once i did over 200 damage first though!)

09-14-2003, 02:46 PM	#19
Myrddin L'argenton Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 14, 2002 Location: England Age: 37 Posts: 312	Gorion is timed to die against the armoured guy for the cliche reason, I did noticed that some of the cliches in the first reference do ring true with BG and BG2 (and were proven false by it as well). __________________ White wild magic graven in every rock, for the white gold wielder to unleash or control. The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant<br />\'Let no man be unworthy of the angel that watches over him.\' Steven Donaldson<br />Accept who you are.<br />Lord Paladin of the Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart.<br />Walkthrough-online\'s new site<br />[url]\"http://forums.clankiller.com\" target=\"_blank\">http://forums.clankiller.com</a>

09-19-2003, 02:45 PM	#20
Little Dragon The Magister Join Date: May 31, 2001 Location: England Posts: 137	. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I imported my character in to a mulitiplayer game so my party was pretty powerful I put my main character in a building with the rest of the pary except 1 character and I got he/she (cant remember twas years ago) to attack Gorian who cast magic and guess what? it went straight through all the buildings to find me in the inn and i died instantly. Now my character had just killed Servok and Gorian just killed me yet cant kill Servok.

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