Juggernaut vs Clay

Quinch · 09-09-2001, 01:26 AM

Does the Juggernaut golem have any redeeming qualities compared to the Clay? I mean, clays are fast, mean, and virtually invulnerable to anything but the high-end blunt weapons, whilst Juggernauts are slightly faster, slightly meaner, and get chopped into play-doh by even a small group of more competent enemies in a matter of seconds...

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09-09-2001, 06:34 AM

its only ever useful as a diversion since most enemies can mince any summoned creature in seconds so i just left it a flesh golem through the game.

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[This message has been edited by Dramnek_Ulk (edited 09-09-2001).]

Ixion · 09-10-2001, 03:25 AM

rriiigghttt *thinks of clays and shrugs* i dont like clays...or Adamantium either for that matter...a bit to invunerable tank like if u ask me..but good Xp

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Bean · 09-10-2001, 11:56 AM

rod of smiting....+10 vs golems, must save vs. death or be destroyed.

Golems shouldn't be a problem ever again.

-Bean

Quinch · 09-10-2001, 02:08 PM

...serves me right for forgetting to mention the important bits...

I'm talking about the book of golems.... is it worth upgrading it after the clay golem page? True, they're no wonder constructs, but they serve well enough to keep non-mage enemies occupied while I regroup....

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Dundee Slaytern · 09-11-2001, 04:45 AM

Stick to Clay.

They are extremely good as distractions to non-magical-blunt-wielding opponents. Not to mention they are magic-immune... ...

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Vaskez · 09-11-2001, 03:31 PM

You guys are wrong. Any summoned creature is very useful is you know how to use them. A wizard could waste his symbal stuns and fears and wails of banshees on a summoned creature and if u allow melee attacks to be on your fighter with best AC, golems can make a killing.

Dundee Slaytern · 09-11-2001, 04:29 PM

For magic intensive battles, I prefer using Skeleton Warriors. True, the mage will cast Death Spell, but the mage only has one Death Spell, after that... ... BwerWahHAHAHAHA!!!!

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Sir Kenyth · 09-12-2001, 06:04 PM

Throw it all at 'em! Golems, skeletons, gnolls, spiders, rabid rabbits, hamsters and of course the deadly kitchen sink mimic! Dominate and charm their minions too. Here's a plus. Viconia controls the undead she turns instead of destroying them! Hack and slash your way to fortune! Woo-Hoo!

homsuplee · 09-12-2001, 10:17 PM

The only problem is, the clay looks alot more effective than it really is. I think that alot of monsters do blunt and whatever type of damage, because my clay golems are always coming back from battle near death or dead. Juggernaut golems are marginally better. By the slimmest of margins. Basically, I haven't found any item-summon to be very useful. With the exception of the ranger-dog's moon lick, they're abilities suck too.

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09-09-2001, 01:26 AM	#1
Quinch Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 7, 2001 Posts: 22	Does the Juggernaut golem have any redeeming qualities compared to the Clay? I mean, clays are fast, mean, and virtually invulnerable to anything but the high-end blunt weapons, whilst Juggernauts are slightly faster, slightly meaner, and get chopped into play-doh by even a small group of more competent enemies in a matter of seconds... ------------------ Ahhhh... glass and thoughts for eternity, pain and loneliness for a destiny!

09-09-2001, 06:34 AM	#2
Dramnek_Ulk Guest Posts: n/a	its only ever useful as a diversion since most enemies can mince any summoned creature in seconds so i just left it a flesh golem through the game. ------------------ Disbelive [This message has been edited by Dramnek_Ulk (edited 09-09-2001).]

09-10-2001, 03:25 AM	#3
Ixion Dungeon Master Join Date: August 22, 2001 Location: drg Posts: 64	rriiigghttt thinks of clays and shrugs i dont like clays...or Adamantium either for that matter...a bit to invunerable tank like if u ask me..but good Xp ------------------ When Ixion the mage walks, the world shivers. (old BG saying)

09-10-2001, 11:56 AM	#4
Bean Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 7, 2001 Posts: 4	rod of smiting....+10 vs golems, must save vs. death or be destroyed. Golems shouldn't be a problem ever again. -Bean

09-10-2001, 02:08 PM	#5
Quinch Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 7, 2001 Posts: 22	...serves me right for forgetting to mention the important bits... I'm talking about the book of golems.... is it worth upgrading it after the clay golem page? True, they're no wonder constructs, but they serve well enough to keep non-mage enemies occupied while I regroup.... ------------------ Ahhhh... glass and thoughts for eternity, pain and loneliness for a destiny!

09-11-2001, 04:45 AM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Stick to Clay. They are extremely good as distractions to non-magical-blunt-wielding opponents. Not to mention they are magic-immune... ... ------------------ If not a Sorcerer, then a Paladin. ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart

09-11-2001, 03:31 PM	#7
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	You guys are wrong. Any summoned creature is very useful is you know how to use them. A wizard could waste his symbal stuns and fears and wails of banshees on a summoned creature and if u allow melee attacks to be on your fighter with best AC, golems can make a killing.

09-11-2001, 04:29 PM	#8
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	For magic intensive battles, I prefer using Skeleton Warriors. True, the mage will cast Death Spell, but the mage only has one Death Spell, after that... ... BwerWahHAHAHAHA!!!! ------------------ If not a Sorcerer, then a Paladin. ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart

09-12-2001, 06:04 PM	#9
Sir Kenyth Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: August 30, 2001 Location: somewhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,785	Throw it all at 'em! Golems, skeletons, gnolls, spiders, rabid rabbits, hamsters and of course the deadly kitchen sink mimic! Dominate and charm their minions too. Here's a plus. Viconia controls the undead she turns instead of destroying them! Hack and slash your way to fortune! Woo-Hoo!

09-12-2001, 10:17 PM	#10
homsuplee Dungeon Master Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Fortress of Regrets Posts: 97	The only problem is, the clay looks alot more effective than it really is. I think that alot of monsters do blunt and whatever type of damage, because my clay golems are always coming back from battle near death or dead. Juggernaut golems are marginally better. By the slimmest of margins. Basically, I haven't found any item-summon to be very useful. With the exception of the ranger-dog's moon lick, they're abilities suck too. ------------------ Death comes for you, FEEL IT'S ICY TOUCH

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